Andrew Huberman on Practical Wellness Tips, the Danger of "If Only" Thinking, and the Important "Protocols" For Life | Ep. 1392
September 7, 2026
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5 min readAndrew Huberman, a Stanford neuroscientist and host of the Huberman Lab podcast, has spent years studying the brain's ability to change itself. His new book, Protocols: An Operating Manual for the Human Body, is the result of a personal journey that began when his parents divorced when he was 14. That experience sent him into a period of disengagement from academics and into the world of skateboarding, where he witnessed both creativity and destruction. Later, he watched mentors—including a professor who understood depression as a chemical issue—die by suicide or illness. These losses taught him a hard lesson: "Knowledge alone doesn't save us." The book and this conversation are his attempt to provide a practical, mechanism-based user manual for the body and brain, grounded in physiology rather than mindset.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (01:19) **Introduction & Huberman's Origin Story** - Megyn introduces Dr. Andrew Huberman, a Stanford neuroscientist and podcast host, who has just written his first book, *Protocols*.
- 2 (09:23) **The Motivation Behind "Protocols"** - Huberman explains that personal tragedies and a realization that "knowledge alone doesn't save us" drove him to create a practical manual for health.
- 3 (18:25) **The Sleep Foundation: Morning Light** - Huberman argues that a great night's sleep begins the moment you wake up, not when you go to bed, and explains the critical role of morning cortisol.
- 4 (25:13) **The Power of Long-Wavelength Light** - Huberman explains that the specific wavelengths of light from morning and evening sun have unique metabolic and health benefits.
- 5 (29:59) **The Fastest Way to Calm Down: The Physiological Sigh** - Huberman demonstrates a specific breathing technique that is the fastest way to lower heart rate and de-stress in real-time.
- 6 (35:48) **The "Wild Trick" to Fall Back Asleep** - Huberman shares a counterintuitive eye-movement technique that can help people who wake up in the middle of the night.
- 7 (54:31) **Non-Sleep Deep Rest (NSDR) for Restoration** - Huberman introduces NSDR, a 10-20 minute practice that provides the restorative benefits of sleep without the grogginess of a nap.
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Show Notes
Megyn Kelly is joined by Dr. Andrew Huberman, author of “Protocols,” to discuss the importance of getting bright light in the morning and darkness at night for improving sleep, how light affects the brain and body, a surprising technique for falling back asleep, the simple and natural ways to help your sleep, finding balance with health and wellness, avoiding an unhealthy obsession with self-improvement, how to stay focused and keep the brain active, why completely shutting off your brain is not actually what you want to do, the science behind why making mistakes and learning from failure is so important, and the way mistakes and learning can help the brain, why ruminating in the past is so counterproductive, actionable ways to live in the present, why ruminating in the past is destructive but you can use it to fuel your current life, the mindset shared by high performers, how his parents’ divorce and experiences growing up influenced the direction of his life, the mentors who shaped him, what ultimately led him to his work today, and more.
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