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5 min readStreet Fight Part III: Can We End It?
The episode opens with a Louis C.K. bit about a country girl visiting New York for the first time. When she sees a homeless man on the sidewalk, she kneels down and asks if he's okay. Her New Yorker friends immediately pull her away, correcting her behavior: "We just don't do that here." Reporter Emma Pettit says the joke lands because it's painfully familiar. When she started reporting on homelessness, she realized she had stopped seeing the people in her own neighborhood. "I think that's a dehumanizing experience for them and for me." The episode then turns to two opposing camps that both want us to stop looking away — but disagree completely on what to do about the person on the sidewalk.
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- 1 Street Fight Part III: Can We End It?
- 2 Timestamped Outline
- 3 (00:00) **Episode Introduction** - Andy Mills and Emma Pettit return to discuss the debate over how to end homelessness
- 4 (04:24) **Housing First Philosophy Explained** - Ian DeYoung, CEO of Org Code Consulting, lays out the core argument for housing-first approaches
- 5 (07:14) **The Data Behind Housing First** - Emma traces the evidence that made housing first seem like a proven solution
- 6 (09:10) **Bipartisan Optimism and Early Promises** - Housing First gained national political support in the 2000s
- 7 (11:46) **What Went Wrong** - The promised end to homelessness never arrived, and critics point to multiple failures
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Show Notes
Everyone agrees that street homelessness is a problem to solve. But that’s where the agreement ends. Today, we explore the two camps that think they’ve found an answer — one that argues for more resources and the other that argues for more rule of law.
THIS EPISODE FEATURES:
Iain De Jong, Stephen Eide, Estela Lopez, Mark Horvath, Traci Park
LINKS:
Iain De Jong’s book, The Book on Ending Homelessness
A few studies on Housing First
The Daily Show segment on Housing First
Stephen Eide’s critique of Housing First
2019 progress report on Proposition HHH
Audit on CA homelessness spending
Oral argument in City of Grants Pass v. Johnson
City of Grants Pass v. Johnson Supreme Court opinion
Los Angeles mayoral primary debate, May 6, 2026
Donald Trump 2023 video about the homeless
Invisible People YouTube channel
Los Angeles City Council meeting, August 18, 2026
For this series we also read, and recommend, the following books: Homelessness in America: The History and Tragedy of an Intractable Social Problem by Stephen Eide, Reckoning with Homelessness by Kim Hopper,
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