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5 min readMegan Phelps-Roper opens with a scene that contains the entire tension of her life and her new podcast, Book Keeper. Sitting across from a man she had spent years protesting with signs reading “You’re going to hell,” she is weeping. She had just left the Westboro Baptist Church, the notoriously anti-gay church founded by her grandfather Fred Phelps, and with that decision she lost her entire family. The man across the table, a Jewish blogger named David, told her something she did not expect: “You left on a principle… pretty much the same principles you were raised with.” Leaving Westboro, he said, was the most Westboro thing she could have done. That paradox—that the same stories and teachings that caused so much harm also contained the resources for leaving that harm behind—became the animating question of her life. Now she is returning to the Bible to ask: what in these ancient texts is worth keeping?
The one story that holds the whole question
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:02) **Introduction & Announcement** - Andy Mills explains the hiatus and introduces the new series Book Keeper.
- 2 (01:10) **Megan Phelps-Roper's Background** - Her unique perspective as a former member of the Westboro Baptist Church.
- 3 (02:20) **Why This Matters for The Last Invention Listeners** - Andy connects the project to the podcast's core mission.
- 4 (04:00) **Megan's Story: Leaving Westboro** - The personal origin of her quest to understand what to keep from her past.
- 5 (08:13) **David's Reframe: The Principle of Standing Up** - A key insight that shapes the entire series.
- 6 (09:23) **The Central Question: What Can I Keep?** - Megan's ongoing exploration of her inheritance.
- 7 (13:12) **Introducing the Story of Joseph** - The main narrative for this episode.
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Show Notes
Today we are sharing with you the first episode of a new series we’ve made here at Longview, called Book Keeper.
In our first episode of this series, host Megan Phelps-Roper, more than 10 years after leaving the Westboro Baptist Church, returns to the Bible. Even though she is no longer what most would consider a “believer,” she wants to explore what ancient wisdom still lives in these stories. And she begins with a tale of profound betrayal and reconciliation.
RESOURCES:
The Book of Genesis — Chapters 37 to 45
CREDITS:
This episode of Book Keeper was produced by Matthew Boll, with editing by Andy Mills and Sarah Hepola. It is hosted by Megan Phelps-Roper.
Music for this episode was composed by Cobey Bienert and Peter Lalish
Artwork by Jacob Boll
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