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1378: Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) | Skeptical Sunday

September 6, 2026

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“When everybody looks away, silence stops being accidental. It becomes part of the machinery that keeps the practice going.” That’s how researcher Jessica Wynne frames the challenge of female genital mutilation (FGM) on this episode of Skeptical Sunday. The conversation is brutally direct, and deliberately so: an estimated 230 million girls and women alive today have undergone FGM, and that number has risen by 15% over the past eight years. The practice survives not just because of tradition, but because most people would rather not think about it.

What FGM Actually Is

FGM refers to any procedure involving the partial or total removal of female external genitalia for non-medical reasons. The World Health Organization classifies it into four types: Type 1 (clitoridectomy), Type 2 (excision of the clitoris and labia), Type 3 (infibulation, which narrows the vaginal opening by cutting and repositioning the labia), and Type 4 (any other harmful procedure like pricking, scraping, or burning). All types are performed on healthy tissue with no medical benefit, usually on girls between infancy and age 15, often by traditional practitioners using razors or knives without anesthesia.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (01:34) **Topic Introduction & Content Warning** - Jordan Harbinger and Jessica Wynne introduce a "Skeptical Sunday" episode on Female Genital Mutilation (FGM).
  • 2 (04:32) **Defining the Practice vs. Male Circumcision** - The conversation clarifies what FGM is and distinguishes it from male circumcision.
  • 3 (07:17) **The Four Types of FGM** - Jessica breaks down the World Health Organization's classification of FGM.
  • 4 (10:15) **Immediate & Lifelong Physical Consequences** - The discussion details the severe and permanent health impacts of FGM.
  • 5 (12:43) **The Power of Language: Mutilation vs. Cutting** - The hosts debate the strategic importance of the term "mutilation."
  • 6 (22:32) **The Global Scale & Demographic Crisis** - The hosts reveal the staggering numbers and why the problem is growing.
  • 7 (26:14) **Dispelling the "Ignorant Villages" Myth** - The conversation challenges the stereotype that FGM is a problem of "poor, uneducated villages."

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Show Notes

Female genital mutilation (FGM) is happening right now to girls worldwide. Jessica Wynn explains why — and what stops it — on Skeptical Sunday.

Welcome to Skeptical Sunday, a special edition of The Jordan Harbinger Show where Jordan and a guest break down a topic that you may have never thought about, open things up, and debunk common misconceptions. This time around, we’re joined by writer and researcher Jessica Wynn!

Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/1378

On This Week's Skeptical Sunday:

  • Female Genital Mutilation isn't a fringe practice — an estimated 230 million women and girls alive today have undergone FGM, and the number is climbing, up 15 percent in eight years. More than two million girls are cut each year, most before their fifth birthday, some within days of being born.
  • FGM isn't Islamic — it predates Islam and appears among Christian and non-religious communities alike; the common thread is culture, not theology. "God requires this" is used as control, which is also why trusted religious leaders are among the strongest voices for ending it.
  • The decision is overwhelmingly made by women — mothers, grandmothers, aunts — not fathers. But they act inside a system where marriage, status, and inheritance hinge on being cut, so it isn't simply men oppressing women. FGM and child marriage are two gears in one machine.
  • The fastest-growing myth is that cutting is safer in a clinic — about one in four recent cases were done by healthcare workers, up to 75 percent in Egypt. There is no safe version. Medicalizing FGM doesn't reduce harm; it lends the practice a veil of legitimacy that helps it survive.
  • Here's what actually works: change from the inside out. When communities talk their own way to abandoning FGM, as in Somaliland and Tostan's villages, it sticks. You can help: fund survivor-led groups, check whether your state bans FGM, back healthcare training, and keep the conversation alive.
  • Connect with Jordan on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube. If you have something you'd like us to tackle here on Skeptical Sunday, drop Jordan a line at [email protected]
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