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1367: Annie Jacobsen | The Genes and Germs of Biological Warfare

August 11, 2026

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In February 2020, a cruise ship called the Diamond Princess became the world’s first documented super-spreader event for COVID-19. One infected passenger, breathing normally in enclosed corridors and dining rooms, ultimately transmitted the virus to 712 other people. That multiplier—roughly four times the baseline transmissibility of the pathogen—is what epidemiologists call a super-spreader event. Now imagine a pathogen with a case fatality rate of 100 percent, engineered to make its host feel euphoric instead of sick, so that he dances in a crowded nightclub, boards a transatlantic flight, and seeds outbreaks in multiple cities before anyone knows they are infected. This is the scenario at the heart of Annie Jacobsen’s new book, and it is not science fiction. It is reconstructed from declassified Soviet bioweapons research, Pentagon war games, and interviews with the scientists and intelligence officers who spent decades trying to prevent it.

The Soviet Super-Plague That Was Never Dismantled

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (01:33) **The Super Plague and a Diabolical Design** - Jordan introduces the episode’s central horror: the Soviet Union’s illegal bioweapons program and a genetically engineered plague designed to make its victims feel euphoric so they will socialize and spread the disease.
  • 2 (04:55) **The Frankfurt Nightclub Scenario and Soviet Science** - The conversation details the nightmare scenario of a super-spreader event, beginning with an American infected with euphoria-inducing pneumonic plague who dances in a nightclub and boards a flight to Dallas.
  • 3 (10:17) **The Illegal Soviet Arsenal and the Defector** - The discussion shifts to the historical reality of the Soviet bioweapons program, which began in earnest after they signed the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention.
  • 4 (14:30) **The "Fortress Russia" Fantasy and Vaccine Failures** - Jacobsen critiques the Soviet plan to vaccinate their own people while unleashing a plague on the West, highlighting the logistical impossibility of such a scheme.
  • 5 (16:56) **Corroborating the Threat and the Modern State of Play** - Jordan asks how difficult it was to verify Pasechnik’s claims, and Jacobsen explains the process of vetting him with Nobel laureate Joshua Lederberg.
  • 6 (20:20) **The Anthrax Attacks and "Death Governmentally"** - The conversation uses the post-9/11 anthrax attacks as a real-world example of a biological incident, focusing on former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle’s experience.
  • 7 (22:27) **Pressure, Not Panic** - Jacobsen clarifies the core purpose of her book: to create pressure for change, not to induce panic, because this is a human-made problem with a potential human solution.

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Annie Jacobsen

Show Notes

Bioweapons are cheaper and deadlier than nukes — and we're not ready. Biological Warfare author Annie Jacobsen breaks down how close we are to catastrophe.

Full show notes and resources can be found here: jordanharbinger.com/1367

What We Discuss with Annie Jacobsen:

  • The Soviet bioweapons program was not dismantled after the Cold War — it was absorbed. The State Department says Russia and North Korea run active illegal programs; China and Iran are of concern.
  • Bioweapons have a low barrier to entry, needing no uranium or missiles. Experts say one could be made in a basement with basic biology and AI help. The Pentagon rates bio the greatest overall WMD threat.
  • Pneumonic plague is 100% fatal without antibiotics within 24 hours. The US has roughly 100 special-pathogen beds for 340 million people, so hospitals would be overwhelmed on day one.
  • Soviet scientists inserted a euphoria gene into plague so the infected feel good, stay social, and spread it widely instead of staying home in bed.
  • Annie Jacobsen's message is pressure, not panic — a human-made problem has a human solution. Pause risky gain-of-function research, depoliticize the threat, and communicate clearly so leaders can act in time.
  • And much more...

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