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5 min readTesla retail investors, the loyalists who have held through every missed deadline and broken promise, are starting to crack. The stock is down 23.89% year-to-date, and over five years it has returned just 50.95% — less than the S&P 500. The source of their frustration is not just the stock price, but a growing sense that Elon Musk himself has checked out of Tesla, pouring his energy into SpaceX while Tesla’s marquee promises — Robotaxi, unsupervised FSD, the Roadster — remain stuck in a loop of "next year" that never arrives. As one commentator put it, these investors are "about to get musked."
The Broken Promise Machine
The core of the argument is that Musk’s pattern of setting extreme timelines and then missing them — repeatedly, for years — is no longer being laughed off by his base. The transcript highlights a specific tension: Musk's defenders used to say that his predictions eventually come true, even if late. But now, investors are asking a sharper question: "If it's five years, I'm out. If it's three months, then I'll be annoyed, but okay, I'll stay in." The problem is that no one knows which timeline is real. The Roadster demo, promised for "this month," has been scaled back to a stunt that won't actually produce a drivable car. Robotaxi expansion has stalled while Waymo — which just won California approval to operate across 18 counties, covering 41,000 square mi
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **Opening: The Thesis** - Host JJ introduces the episode's core argument: Tesla retail investors are increasingly frustrated with Elon Musk due to missed predictions, a stalled Robotaxi rollout, and a perceived shift in his enthusiasm from Tesla to SpaceX.
- 2 (01:05) **The Roadster & Robotaxi Delays** - JJ highlights two specific broken promises that are fueling investor anger: the delayed Roadster and the unfulfilled Robotaxi vision.
- 3 (01:45) **The Waymo Contrast** - JJ introduces a key piece of evidence: Waymo's approval to expand its Robotaxi service across 18 California counties, directly contrasting Tesla's stalled progress.
- 4 (02:02) **Main Segment: Investor Anger on Display** - JJ plays a clip from another podcast featuring "Fazad," a known Tesla influencer, who admits that investors are angry and the fan base is fracturing.
- 5 (03:09) **The SpaceX Merger Conspiracy** - JJ and Fazad discuss a conspiracy theory among investors: that Elon is deliberately driving down Tesla's stock price to set up a favorable merger with SpaceX.
- 6 (04:25) **The Core Problem: "Elon Sucks at Timelines"** - The conversation pivots to the fundamental issue of Musk's unreliable predictions and indefinite timelines.
- 7 (05:26) **The "Off the Tracks" Train** - Fazad uses a metaphor to describe the current risk for Tesla investors: being on a train that is "off the tracks and going downhill."
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Show Notes
John Johnston (JJ) breaks down how more and more Tesla retail investors are getting mad at Elon, as Tesla seems to be languishing, with the stock price going down and underperforming over the past five years, while Elon seems way more excited about SpaceX.
Referenced video:
I Can't Stay Quiet on Tesla & SpaceX Anymore! https://youtu.be/tfj5RxkKmOw | Hans Nelson and Farzad
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