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#2536 - Eric Goode & Jeremy McBride

August 6, 2026

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“Everyone in Florida has been in prison.” That line, delivered by a career reptile smuggler turned prison veteran, captures the tone of Monsters of God, the new HBO docuseries from Eric Goode and Jeremy McBride. The series traces the multi-billion-dollar reptile trade across five decades, following the people who collect, smuggle, sell, and obsess over these animals — and the law enforcement agents who chase them. Goode, a lifelong reptile keeper, and McBride, his producing partner, spent six years making the series, building on relationships they developed over nearly two decades. The result is less an exposé of a criminal underworld than a study of what drives human beings to risk everything for creatures that “don’t give a fuck about you.”

The reptile trade: from hobby to industry

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  • 1 (00:01) **Introduction and the Origins of the Reptile Trade** - Joe Rogan introduces Eric Goode and Jeremy McBride to discuss their new HBO docuseries, *Monsters of God*, about the reptile trade and its connection to invasive species like Florida’s Burmese pythons.
  • 2 (04:29) **Rattlesnake Bite: Venom, Antivenom, and Recovery** - Eric describes being bitten by a tiger rattlesnake, detailing the effects of both hemotoxin and neurotoxin, and the painful serum sickness from horse-derived antivenom.
  • 3 (09:15) **The Dark World of Reptile Collecting and Smuggling** - Eric recounts his journey from a closeted reptile enthusiast in New York City to making a docuseries about the dangerous and obsessive reptile trade.
  • 4 (15:28) **Python Skins, Invasive Species, and California's Ban** - The discussion shifts to the irony of California banning python skins while Florida is overrun with invasive Burmese pythons.
  • 5 (20:57) **The Iguana Boom and Unintended Consequences** - Eric and Jeremy discuss how *Jurassic Park* triggered a massive demand for green iguanas as pets, leading to 5,000 being sold per week and eventually creating an invasive species problem in Florida.
  • 6 (28:42) **The Psychology of Reptile Obsession vs. Mammal Attachment** - Joe contrasts the appeal of mammals like chimpanzees, which offer emotional connection, with reptiles, which are "looking into the abyss" and don't reciprocate affection.
  • 7 (33:20) **Antivenom Shortages and Snake Bite Myths** - Eric reveals that antivenom for coral snakes is no longer produced because it is cost-ineffective, leaving victims at risk of death.

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Show Notes

Eric Goode and Jeremy McBride are filmmakers whose work includes "Tiger King," "Chimp Crazy," and "Monsters of God," now available on HBO and HBO Max.
https://www.hbomax.com/shows/monsters-of-god/d779bf7e-5bfb-47d9-be21-9795ef6d19ce


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