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5 min readThe Real Cost of Public Land, Peptides, and Haters
Joe Rogan and Cameron Hanes start the episode talking about lightning, alligators, and Florida's overpopulated dinosaur-like predators, but the conversation quickly becomes a sprawling, honest discussion about something deeper: the constant battle to protect public lands, the nature of elite endurance, and why people attack outliers rather than learn from them.
The Fight for Public Land
Hanes, wearing a "Not One Acre" shirt, lays out a clear and urgent case about federal public land. A roadless rule protecting 45 million acres is under threat through what he calls "sneaky" legislative tactics. Senator Mike Lee has attached language to an unrelated wildfire bill that would open up roadless areas—ostensibly to fight fires, but Hanes and Rogan argue the real goal is resource extraction and development. "Ninety-nine percent of Americans oppose repealing the rules of this rule," Hanes says, pointing out that most wildfires start within a half mile of existing roads, not in untouched wilderness.
The same pattern keeps repeating: first it was "surplus acreage," then "affordable housing," now "wildfire fighting." Each time, the public pushes back and wins—but the proposals keep coming back with new packaging. Hanes urges listeners to call their senators at 202-224-3121 and demand the roadless rule stay intact.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:20) **Opening Banter & Lightning Stories** - Joe and Cameron discuss the muggy DC weather, UFC 250 concerns, and trade terrifying lightning strike stories.
- 2 (04:43) **Alligator Attacks & Florida's Overpopulation** - A discussion on gator attacks, including a body-cam video of a suspect being killed, and the massive overpopulation of alligators in Florida.
- 3 (10:56) **Rick Flair Scam & The Pat McAfee Invitation** - Cameron details a scam where someone tried to impersonate the podcast to get his bank info, and how he almost fell for a similar scam involving Pat McAfee's show.
- 4 (23:15) **Cameron's Gold Tooth Story** - Cameron explains the origin of his new gold tooth, joking it's his "savings account" and a rejection of his previous obsession with perfect teeth.
- 5 (27:03) **The Obligation of Success & Hater Energy** - Joe discusses the responsibility of maintaining the #1 podcast, while Cameron reflects on the futility of being a "hater" and the importance of protecting one's energy.
- 6 (35:55) **Political Frustration, Distractions & Social Media Detox** - The conversation turns to the lack of transparency on Epstein, JFK, and the Iran conflict, followed by a discussion on the benefits of avoiding social media.
- 7 (48:12) **Bear Meat, Yogi Bear & Mountain Lion Management** - Cameron presents bear meat products (jerky, sausage, rendered fat) and debunks the myth that bear meat is inedible, blaming Yogi Bear and Disney for the bad reputation.
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Show Notes
Cameron Hanes is a bowhunter, outdoorsman, endurance athlete, author, and host of the podcasts “Keep Hammering Collective,” “Sh*t Talkers Weekly,” and “Lift. Run. Shoot.” His most recent book is “Undeniable: How to Reach the Top and Stay There.”
www.youtube.com/@cameronhanes
https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250365941/undeniable/
www.cameronhanes.com
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