How to Speak Up with Confidence ft. Tori Kelly

July 24, 2026

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Tori Kelly spent years believing that her only value was in her voice. Signed at eleven, she learned to equate applause with worth. When doors closed and labels didn’t know what to do with her, that equation broke. “I’m like, oh now I don’t have self worth,” she says. The recovery came from untangling her identity from performance and learning to speak up in rooms where no one was clapping.

The Foundation of Self-Worth

Kelly traces her struggle to a childhood where she felt her opinion didn’t matter. As a young artist, she couldn’t separate herself from her work. “I would get applause and I’m getting a reaction and like oh cool I’m worth something,” she recalls. The turning point came through her faith, which gave her a sense of identity independent of external validation. “Even if I don’t have music and all the stuff goes away, I’m still a child of God,” she says. This foundation allowed her to treat praise and criticism alike: neither defines her core. For someone listening who feels the same way, Kelly’s advice to her younger self is simple: don’t put your self-worth in other people’s hands. “Don’t loan out your soul,” as the host puts it.

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What you'll learn

1 (01:03) **Self-Worth Beyond Applause** - Tori Kelly explains how she separated her identity from audience approval
2 (05:48) **Advice to Her Younger Self** - Tori tells what she would say to an 11-year-old version of herself about self-worth
3 (08:10) **The Shy Performer Paradox** - How Tori switches from a reserved person to a confident stage presence
4 (13:08) **Voicing Meena from *Sing*** - How Tori's shyness made her the perfect fit for her animated character
5 (16:19) **The Superpower of Shyness** - Why reserved people often have the deepest, most thought-provoking words
6 (19:06) **The Writing-It-Out Method** - How pre-writing can prevent unnecessary conversations
7 (23:56) **Unlearning People-Pleasing** - Tori's journey into motherhood and turning 30 helped her stop seeking approval

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Show Notes

Have you ever talked yourself out of speaking before you even opened your mouth? I think a lot of us have. We convince ourselves that everyone else is smarter, more experienced, or has something more valuable to say. So we stay quiet. The problem is, the more you do that, the easier it becomes to believe the lie that your voice doesn't matter.

In this conversation, Tori Kelly shares how she spent years believing people only wanted to hear her sing—not hear what she thought. We talk about where that belief came from, how she learned to challenge it, and what it takes to find the confidence to speak up when your mind is telling you to stay silent.

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