What’s the time? - Marcus Brigstocke, Leon Lobo, Louise Devoy
November 19, 2025
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5 min read“If you raise one of those clocks by a centimeter, you can measure that because the frequency changes, because it's sensitive to gravity being slightly different.” That is not a line from science fiction. It is a description of the next generation of optical atomic clocks, which are so precise they would lose or gain a second over the entire lifetime of the universe. This episode of The Infinite Monkey Cage, recorded at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich on its 350th anniversary, uses the milestone to explore why we need to know the time, how we have measured it, and what is at stake as our definition of the second is about to change again.
Why we need the time: from railways to finance
The obvious answer is that we need the time so we are not late. But the deeper answer, supplied by Leon Lobo of the National Physical Laboratory, is that nearly everything in modern digital infrastructure depends on time for synchronization. Telecom networks, satellite navigation, energy grids, and financial trading systems all require timing at the microsecond level or better. The historical trigger for standardizing time across a whole country was the railway. In 1847, British railway companies adopted Greenwich Mean Time across the entire network because local times based on different railway terminus clocks varied by up to thirty minutes, making connections impossible. By 1852, the obs
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What you'll learn
- 1 (02:10) **Episode Introduction & Setting the Scene** - Brian Cox and Robin Ince open at the Royal Observatory, Greenwich, celebrating its 350th anniversary.
- 2 (04:12) **Panel Introductions & Favorite Timekeepers** - The guests are introduced: Leon Lobo (National Timing Centre, NPL), Louise Devoy (Senior Curator, Royal Observatory), and Marcus Brigstocke (comedian/cheese judge).
- 3 (06:41) **Why We Need to Know the Time** - The panel explores the modern and historical necessity of time synchronization.
- 4 (10:20) **From Earth's Rotation to Atomic Time** - The panel explains the evolution of timekeeping standards.
- 5 (15:10) **The Modern Second & Its Accuracy** - Leon details the incredible precision of current atomic clocks and upcoming redefinitions.
- 6 (17:26) **Navigation, Chronometers & the Time Ball** - Louise explains the link between timekeeping and maritime navigation.
- 7 (19:47) **The Modern Need for Extreme Precision** - Leon outlines the critical economic and technological drivers for hyper-accurate time.
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Show Notes
Robin Ince and Brian Cox wind up at the Royal Observatory in Greenwich – arguably the centre of time – to uncoil the mysteries of what time is and how on Earth (…and on moon) we keep track of it. Taking the time to join them are comedian Marcus Brigstocke, curator of the Royal Observatory Louise Devoy, and Head of the National Timing Centre Leon Lobo.
From ancient Egyptian knuckle counting to sun dials, quartz oscillators and atomic clocks, the panel turns back time to discover how we measured and kept it throughout history. Together, they dial into why Greenwich has become such an important place for time and how time is synchronised and sold across the globe. They explore the flaws and future of accurate astronomical and atomic timekeeping, and Marcus blames the ‘leap second’ for his fry-up failures.
Producer: Olivia Jani Series Producer: Melanie Brown Executive Producer: Alexandra Feachem A BBC Studios Production
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