Warming your house the green way just got more expensive

February 4, 2026

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🎙️ The Speakers & Context

The Format: Host-led discussion with field interviews and expert commentary.
The Key Players:
- Hosts: Darren Woods (NPR Indicator co-host) and Nate Hegseth (guest host, host of public radio's Outside/In, now based in Juneau, Alaska; brings local Alaskan energy efficiency perspective amid record snow and high heating costs).
- Featured Voices: Brendan Jackson and Michelle Dutrow (Alaska homeowners who rushed heat pump install); Ari Matusiak (former Obama energy official, CEO of nonprofit Rewiring America; credible on electrification trends).
The Vibe: Balanced and explanatory—reflective on policy history, pragmatic on market impacts, with a touch of optimism amid fiscal skepticism.

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What you'll learn

1 (00:00) **🎙️ Introduction: Nate Hedgey**
2 (00:39) **Rising Energy Bills and Expired Clean Energy Tax Credits**
3 (02:29) **Heat Pump Installation Story: Brendan Jackson & Michelle Dutrow**
4 (04:20) **History of Energy Efficiency Tax Credits**
5 (05:31) **Criticism of the Credits**
6 (07:08) **Future Impact on Renewables and Optimism**
7 (08:48) **Alternative Incentives Persist**

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Show Notes

People wanting to purchase heat pumps might soon face sticker shock. Many consumers have sought out energy credits to find a greener and more affordable alternative to heating oil, but the tax credit to help make them cheaper has expired. Today on the show: how homeowners, the renewables industry, and its critics all feel about it.

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