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The gamble of trying to inflate away debt

October 20, 2026

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In a 2024 interview with Time magazine, President Trump suggested that the United States might be able to “inflate away” its national debt, which now exceeds $40 trillion. The idea sounds simple: if the government prints money and drives up prices, the real value of the dollars it owes shrinks. But as Ricardo Reis, a professor of economics at the London School of Economics and co-author of a paper titled “Inflating away the public debt,” explains on The Indicator, the plan is far harder to execute than it sounds—and announcing it can backfire catastrophically.

The mechanism: inflation erodes the real value of fixed-dollar promises

The core logic is straightforward. When a government borrows money, it promises to repay a fixed number of dollars at a future date. If inflation runs higher than expected between the borrowing and the repayment, those dollars buy less than they did when the loan was made. The lender gets back the same nominal amount, but its purchasing power is lower. The government, meanwhile, has effectively paid back less in real terms.

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  • 1 (00:08) **Introducing the Cunning Plan** - Hosts Wayland Wong and Patty Hirsch set up the episode: can the U.S. inflate its way out of a $40 trillion national debt?
  • 2 (02:16) **The Basic Mechanism of Inflation and Debt** - Expert Ricardo Reis (LSE) explains the simple logic behind inflating away debt.
  • 3 (03:30) **The COVID-Era Example: Unplanned Erosion** - Reis points to a recent, real-world instance of debt erosion in the U.S. during the pandemic.
  • 4 (04:55) **The "Kryptonite": Why Announcing the Plan Backfires** - The hosts and Reis explain why publicly stating an intention to inflate destroys the strategy.
  • 5 (05:34) **The Dangerous Domino Effect** - Reis details the catastrophic risk of a government that is perceived as pursuing an inflation strategy.
  • 6 (06:18) **The Alternative: Financial Repression** - The conversation turns to a covert method governments have used: forcing savers to accept low returns.
  • 7 (07:10) **The Hard-to-Meet Conditions for Success** - Reis outlines the specific, difficult-to-achieve conditions required for the plan to work.

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Show Notes

The United States national debt is running at more than $40 trillion dollars. It’s a potential crisis in the making, but President Donald Trump suggested it can all be solved just by inflating the debt away. Today, we dig into the nitty gritty on how and when inflating the national debt could work.

Fact checking by Sierra Juarez.

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