Catching up with a fired federal worker, a shrimper and a fraudster
December 18, 2025
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5 min read🎙️ The Speakers & Context
- The Format: Panel-style "rest of the story" check-ins with high-energy forensic updates on prior interviewees amid 2025's relentless economic fire hose.
- The Key Players:
- Elizabeth Anniskevich (former CFPB attorney): High-performing regulator turned class-action leader; her media visibility post-firing accelerated a promotion at a consumer lawsuit firm.
- AC Cooper (Louisiana shrimper): Frontline tariff beneficiary; tracks import floods eroding U.S. prices, positioning as real-time policy impact gauge.
- Charlie Javice (Frank founder): Serial inflater convicted of startup fraud; her $175M JP Morgan acquisition exposed indemnity clauses as massive liabilities.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **Episode Introduction: Reflecting on 2025's Intense Economics News**
- 2 (02:53) **Update: Elizabeth Anniskevich's Firing from CFPB by DOGE**
- 3 (05:14) **Transition to Pro-Tariff Perspective**
- 4 (05:22) **Update: AC Cooper's Shrimp Business Amid Tariffs**
- 5 (07:15) **Transition to Fraud Story**
- 6 (07:26) **Update: Charlie Javis Fraud Conviction at Frank Startup**
- 7 (10:18) **Episode Wrap-Up and Teases**
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Show Notes
After a firehose of economic news in 2025, we wanted to check back on some of the people we’ve heard from on our show. Today, we check in with a former federal employee caught in the Trump administration's wood chipper, a Louisiana shrimper on Trump’s tariffs and an update on a financial aid scam.
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