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5 min readC is for C-shaped economy
When Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told CNBC last week that "the K-shaped economy is over, and we're seeing more of a C economy," he was trying to retire a letter. The K had become a political liability—an alphabet-shaped shorthand for an economy where the rich got richer and the poor got poorer, diverging like the two arms of the letter. But what exactly is a C-shaped economy? "Like the top going down and the bottom coming up," Bessent said, before adding with a wry acknowledgment: "That's got a rather socialist whiff to it." Whether the data supports the new letter is another question entirely.
The rise and drift of the K
The K-shaped economy entered public conversation during the pandemic, when it was a reasonable description of what was actually happening. Mike Strain, an economist at the right-leaning American Enterprise Institute, says the original usage was straightforward: "The poor were getting poorer at the same time that the rich were getting richer." That divergence was real in 2020. But over the last few years, the term has drifted. "Different people are using the term in different ways," Strain notes, "and some people are using it as just another way of describing inequality, which is different than its original usage." The distinction matters: inequality can increase even when both rich and poor are improving in absolute terms
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:06) **Introducing the Alphabet Economy** - Hosts Waylon Wong and Patty Hirsch set up the episode's premise: using letters to describe the economy, starting with the "K-shaped" economy.
- 2 (01:39) **The K-Shaped Economy: Origin and Evolution** - Economist Mike Strain from the American Enterprise Institute explains the history and shifting definition of the "K-shaped" economy term.
- 3 (03:39) **Decoding Bessent's "C Economy" Claim** - The hosts break down what Treasury Secretary Bessent meant by a "C economy" and whether the data supports it.
- 4 (04:45) **Economist Claudia Sahm Weighs In** - Claudia Sahm, economist and creator of the Sahm Rule recession indicator, offers her critique of the alphabet approach to the economy.
- 5 (05:41) **The Data Problem with Letter-Shaped Economies** - Sahm highlights a fundamental challenge in settling the K vs. C debate: poor data.
- 6 (06:31) **Deceleration or Danger? Two Expert Views** - The hosts present contrasting interpretations of the slowing economy from Strain and Sahm.
- 7 (07:31) **Sahm's Warning Signs: Labor Force and Opportunity** - Claudia Sahm detects more concerning trends, particularly in the labor market.
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