Victor Davis Hanson Predicts What Happens to MAGA After Trump | Guest: Victor Davis Hanson | 9/15/26
September 15, 2026
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5 min readThe Counter-Revolution and Its Aftermath
Victor Davis Hanson joined Glenn Beck to discuss his new book The Counter-Revolution: The Fall and Rise of Donald Trump and the MAGA Movement, and to offer a historian's assessment of what happens to the movement after Trump is gone. The conversation ranged across Trump's foreign policy strategy, the transformation of the Republican Party, and the deeper question of whether the changes Trump has set in motion will outlast him.
The Iran Strategy and the Oil Calculus
Hanson argued that the administration's approach to Iran is misunderstood because observers focus on the wrong metrics. The administration has emphasized the "numerator"—how many missiles and drones have been destroyed—but has not discussed the "denominator," meaning how many weapons Iran had stockpiled in the first place. No one knew there were tens of thousands sequestered across the country, waiting for years. The risk in the short term is that Iran could launch a significant strike before the midterms, driving up oil prices and costing Trump his congressional majority.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (01:43) **Cold Open: The Transhumanist Origin Story** - Beck narrates the intellectual genealogy of the transhumanist movement, tracing it from a 19th-century Russian librarian to modern tech billionaires.
- 2 (13:16) **The Modern Battle Over the Fedorov Inheritance** - Beck argues that the Kremlin, Elon Musk, and Peter Thiel are all fighting over the same apocalyptic sentence, just with different endings.
- 3 (17:14) **The Core Test: What Happens to the Dissenter?** - Beck distills the entire framework into a single question that reveals the danger of any utopian project.
- 4 (22:25) **The Pro-Human AI Declaration and the Edison/Westinghouse Lesson** - Beck defends his simultaneous positions of signing a human-control AI declaration and advocating for building data centers.
- 5 (33:32) **Fear the Machine, Pour the Concrete** - Beck reconciles his support for AI development with his demand for strict human oversight.
- 6 (41:43) **The American Dream is Alive: The Secret of the Free Market** - Beck presents data and stories proving that the ladder of opportunity still exists for ordinary Americans.
- 7 (46:56) **The Jacob Davis / Levi Strauss Parable** - Beck tells the origin story of blue jeans to illustrate how innovation actually happens.
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Glenn tells the story of a 19th-century librarian, Nikolai Fedorov, who claimed humanity's number-one goal was to defeat death, an idea that has since been carried throughout history and is still being chased by powerful men today. Glenn warns that the danger isn’t wanting to cure death, but it lies in what the people who are steering the ship will do to anybody who stands in their way. Glenn discusses the Pro-Human Assembly happening in Washington, hosted by Bernie Sanders and Steve Bannon, and argues that the U.S. must simultaneously build data centers to beat China in the AI race and demand human-controlled safeguards like off switches and independent inspectors. Is the American dream of starting a business still obtainable? Glenn shares success stories of multiple businesses that started from the ground up and are now worth billions. Rapper Macklemore has been removed as the opening act of the Ed Sheeran tour after using the stage to preach about Palestine, all because one father decided to take a stand against the indoctrination. Glenn and Jason discuss the latest controversy surrounding Sydney Sweeney and her recent ad campaign. Glenn speaks with Victor Davis Hanson about the future of the MAGA movement after President Trump leaves the Oval Office.
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