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Is Trump Preparing Marco Rubio for Something BIG?! | Guests: Kevin O'Leary & Thomas Pigott | 7/14/26

July 14, 2026

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The Data Center Debate: Power, Water, and National Security

Kevin O'Leary came on the Glenn Beck program to address the growing controversy over data center construction in rural America, using his proposed $16 billion facility in Box Elder County, Utah as the central case study. The conversation quickly moved beyond local concerns to the strategic stakes of the AI race with China.

O'Leary agreed with Beck's framing that data centers are fundamentally about power, not data. "In the last eighteen months, the Chinese using primarily coal burning turbines... they've built 400 gigawatts of new power for China, its economy, and its efforts to dominate AI. How many have we built that's new in America? Zero." This power gap, he argued, is the real bottleneck for American competitiveness.

The Local Trade-Offs

On water consumption—the most sensitive issue in drought-prone Utah—O'Leary pushed back hard against claims that modern data centers would drain the Great Salt Lake. He described a "closed loop system" for chip cooling, similar to a car radiator, and said the first phase of his project would use "no different than a golf course in Utah." He promised to make the water permit application public in late August, inviting scrutiny.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (03:29) **Kevin O'Leary on Data Centers & AI** - Glenn Beck introduces Kevin O'Leary to discuss the controversy around building data centers, specifically in Box Elder County, Utah.
  • 2 (08:05) **The Power Problem & The China Race** - O'Leary agrees with Beck's framing and states the core issue is power generation.
  • 3 (11:35) **Jobs & Community Benefits** - O'Leary pushes back on the claim that data centers don't create jobs, citing 3,000 construction and 2,000 permanent high-paying jobs for the Utah project.
  • 4 (12:43) **The Water Question in the High Desert** - Beck asks directly about water usage in a drought-prone area.
  • 5 (15:42) **Power Generation Mix** - O'Leary details the planned power sources: natural gas, air-cooled turbines, solar, and sodium-lithium batteries.
  • 6 (21:30) **Why Rural Towns?** - Explains the massive scale required: a competitive data center has grown from 250 megawatts to 1.4 gigawatts, forcing them into rural areas with available land.
  • 7 (22:21) **The First AI War** - O'Leary states the current conflict in the Middle East is the first AI war.

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Show Notes

Glenn starts the show by speaking with Mr. Wonderful himself, Kevin O’Leary, about the rise of AI data centers across the country. Are these AI data centers a plague or a necessary advancement? Glenn and Kevin discuss the controversies surrounding these data centers, with Kevin arguing why society needs to get on board with them. U.S. State Department spokesperson Thomas Pigott joins to elaborate more on Secretary of State Marco Rubio’s meeting involving over 60 countries to discuss rising far-left terrorism, domestically and abroad. Why does it seem like Rubio is doing every job in the government? Glenn goes through all the different hats Rubio wears and theorizes about why President Trump has placed so much trust and responsibility in Rubio. Glenn tells the history of Michael Harrington, a founding member of the Democratic Socialists of America, and argues why he would hate what the movement has become today. Lastly, Glenn discusses the highs and lows of Theodore Roosevelt’s presidency. 

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