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5 min readJack Dash, co-author of the Southwest Native Plant Primer and gardens manager at Tohono Chul Botanical Gardens in Tucson, grew up in the Pacific Northwest tagging along with a grandmother who named every plant she passed. That early exposure, he says, taught him that botanical gardens “bring biodiversity to people's doorsteps.” In this conversation with host Caitlin Hossee, he explains why native plant gardening in the Southwest is not just an ecological choice but the most practical one—and why the desert is far from barren.
What “native” really means in a place like the Southwest
Dash avoids a rigid definition of native plants. Instead, he recommends a bioregional approach: look at the ecosystem your garden is part of, not political boundaries or a fixed radius. In Tucson, that means the Arizona Upland subdivision of the Sonoran Desert—a region that crosses state lines and the U.S.-Mexico border. Within it, there are roughly 2,000 plant species to choose from. But that doesn’t mean anything within 50 miles works. “I live at the base of the Santa Catalina Mountains,” he says. “Not 50 miles from my house there’s Douglas fir and blue spruce. Those are not going to be appropriate for my garden at 2,500 feet in elevation.” The key is matching plants to the specific climatic and geologic conditions of your site.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:22) **Introduction and Guest Background** - Host Caitlin Hossee introduces Jack Dash, co-author of the Southwest Native Plant Primer and gardens manager at Tohono Chul Botanical Gardens in Tucson.
- 2 (05:04) **Defining Native Plants in the Southwest** - Jack offers a bioregional definition of native plants and explains the region's surprising biodiversity.
- 3 (09:36) **History and Shift in Desert Landscaping** - Jack discusses how perceptions of deserts as barren led to water-intensive landscaping, and how attitudes are changing.
- 4 (14:39) **Inspiration for the Southwest Native Plant Primer** - Jack explains the book's focus on creating ecologically functional landscapes rather than specimen gardens.
- 5 (17:51) **Lessons from Southwest Gardening** - Jack shares practical advice for gardening in an extreme climate, especially for newcomers.
- 6 (22:06) **Favorite Native Plant: The Wild Chili Pepper** - Jack highlights Capsicum annuum var. glabriusculum as his current favorite, connecting it to food security and habitat protection.
- 7 (25:19) **Projects and Resources for Beginners** - Jack promotes Tohono Chul Botanical Garden and the upcoming book Atascosa Borderlands, and gives advice for new native plant gardeners.
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Show Notes
Join Kaitlin Haase for a conversation with author and botanist Jack Dash, who co-wrote The Southwest Native Plant Primer and is the Gardens Manager at Tohono Chul Botanical Gardens in Tucson, AZ. Kaitlin and Jack discuss the importance of preserving native plant biodiversity in wild lands and in gardens.
The Southwest Native Plant Primer
Native Plant Society of New Mexico
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