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5 min readTina Sue built a business that generated $770,000 in revenue over the past twelve months, with $555,000 of that being profit — a 72% margin. She sells a group program called Hi Mama that helps children with speech delay and autism symptoms, priced at $2,500 per year. She was doing everything herself: every Instagram DM conversation, every piece of marketing, much of the delivery. She was exhausted, and the business could not grow beyond her personal capacity. Alex Hormozi walked her through a systematic rebuild of the offer, the conversion process, and the traffic strategy.
The core psychological block was that Tina had equated selling with doing a disservice to her customers. She avoided structured marketing because she did not want people to "feel sold to." Hormozi reframed this directly: "I agree with you, should not sell poorly. So you should sell well." The distinction matters. Her current approach was a three-to-four-hour marathon session with live parents, and only 10% of attendees bought. She was losing the other 90% by making them sit through hours of unstructured content before they heard how she could help. "If your stated goal is that you want to help more parents, having the expectation that they're going to wait two, three hours before hearing about how you can help them is doing a disservice because you're losing half of them anyways."
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What you'll learn
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- 2 (00:00) **Guest Introduction & Business Overview** - Tina Sue introduces her business Hi Mama, a $770K/year group program helping children with speech delay and autism symptoms
- 3 (01:52) **The Personal Mission Behind the Business** - Tina shares her son's journey from severe autism, ADHD, and epilepsy to full remission through holistic methods
- 4 (04:11) **The Money Mindset Block** - Alexi challenges Tina's resistance to charging more and having standardized sales processes
- 5 (05:01) **The Back-to-Front Framework** - Alexi lays out his standard approach: fix the offer first, then the conversion process, then traffic
- 6 (06:43) **The Webinar Structure Blueprint** - Alexi outlines the classic pitch framework she should use
- 7 (09:02) **Fixing the Upsell Timing** - Alexi explains why selling the upsell during the program, not at the end, dramatically increases conversion
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Tina turned her son's recovery from autism, ADHD, and epilepsy into a $770K business with 72% margins. But she's still answering every DM. In this episode of Scale or Fail, Alex breaks down the belief holding most mission-driven founders back and the system that lets them help more people by doing less themselves.
In this episode
00:00 Introducing Tina and her business model
04:55 The back-to-front scaling framework
09:02 Designing and timing upsells after the initial sale
11:03 Checkout vs one-on-one pricing
18:05 AI agent for Telegram support
21:24 Turning Q&As into daily content
23:50 Ads strategy and CTA timing
28:01 Scaling roadmap assessment
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