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Amy Walter: Pennsylvania's Trump-Shapiro Voters

July 25, 2026

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Pennsylvania’s Josh Shapiro is doing something unusual: he is winning over voters who cast a ballot for Donald Trump in 2024. In a focus group of Pennsylvanians who voted for Trump but approve of Shapiro’s job as governor, the reasons were concrete and local—he blocked a utility rate hike, fixed a collapsed bridge in 12 days, and pushed for data centers as an economic investment. The episode, featuring Amy Walter of the Cook Political Report, uses this case study to explore a deeper puzzle: why Democrats are not running away with an election cycle that, on paper, should be a blowout.

The Generic Ballot Gap

The conversation opens with a tension that both hosts find frustrating. The political environment is terrible for Republicans: Donald Trump is underwater on approval, inflation is high, and a war is dragging on. Yet the generic congressional ballot—which asks voters whether they prefer a Democrat or Republican for Congress—shows only a modest Democratic lead. Amy Walter explains that the Republican number is stuck around 45 percent, meaning the GOP has consolidated its base but has little room to grow. The Democratic number is higher but not as high as the environment would suggest. Walter’s theory is that voters know they dislike Trump but do not yet know enough about the Democratic candidates. The Democratic brand itself is toxic in many minds, shaped by media coverag

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (01:00) **Opening: The "Reasonable Candidate" Paradox** - Sarah Longwell introduces the core tension: voters who like a moderate candidate are often the reason that candidate can't win a primary.
  • 2 (01:25) **The Political Landscape: Generic Ballot vs. Environment** - Longwell and Amy Walter assess why Democratic leads in the generic ballot don't match the favorable political environment.
  • 3 (06:19) **2022 Lessons: Candidate Quality and the Abortion Bump** - The conversation turns to how weak Republican candidates and the Dobbs decision saved Democrats from a red wave.
  • 4 (08:17) **The Money Disparity and the "Toxic Brand" Problem** - Longwell and Walter analyze the fundraising gap and how the "far left" narrative hurts Democrats.
  • 5 (12:34) **Michigan's Primary as a Proxy War** - The hosts debate whether the Michigan Senate primary will provide clear lessons for the party's future.
  • 6 (18:13) **Focus Group: Trump Voters Who Approve of Josh Shapiro** - Longwell introduces a focus group of Pennsylvanians who voted for Trump in 2024 but approve of Governor Shapiro's job performance.
  • 7 (24:56) **Trump's Stalled Approval Decline** - Walter observes that Trump's approval rating, which fell sharply after the war started and prices rose, has drifted back up slightly, disrupting the downward momentum.

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Show Notes

In Pennsylvania, Gov. Josh Shapiro is on track for a pretty big win in November. And he can't do that without winning over a lot of former Trump voters, including the ones in our focus group. Cook Political Report editor in chief Amy Walter returns to the show to discuss how our Pennsylvania focus group felt about Shapiro, AND Sen. John Fetterman, and about the Trump administration. They also break down whether Democrats should be concerned about the generic ballot polling we're seeing right now.

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