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Agentic AI Software Testing and Development with Dragan Spiridonov

February 12, 2026

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The conversation centers on Dragan Spiridonov’s development of an open-source Agentic QE orchestration system that applies specialized agents and skills across the software development lifecycle. It traces how he moved from standard chat-based LLM use to prompt engineering, then context engineering, and finally agentic methods that produce over 90 percent acceptable outputs on quality tasks.

From Chat Interfaces to Agentic Execution

Dragan describes a clear sequence of capability gains. Early experiments with ChatGPT, Gemini, and Claude in chat windows yielded roughly 50-60 percent usable results because prompts alone could not maintain project context. Adding context through memory banks in tools such as Cursor and Roo Code raised reliability above 80 percent. The decisive step occurred when he adopted agentic engineering: agents first observe the environment, collect data, reason selectively by calling LLMs only at decision points, and then execute deterministic logic or tool calls toward an explicit goal. The human role shifts to reviewing outputs and intervening when patterns deviate.

This structure separates concerns. Deterministic code inside agents handles repeatable steps without LLM cost or variability, while LLM calls occur only at crossroads. The result is traceable behavior that can be observed in real time rather than opaque end-to-end generation.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:00) **Introduction and guest background** - Dragan shares 30 years in IT evolving into QA and launching independent agentic QE consultancy
  • 2 (02:52) **Natural progression to agentic development** - Moving from chat interfaces through prompt engineering and context engineering to full agentic approaches
  • 3 (05:35) **Defining agentic AI** - Agents observe environment, reason via LLM or specialized models, then autonomously execute toward goals
  • 4 (08:29) **Agents versus agent definition files** - Clarifies that .md files are only warm-up prompts; real agents are executable programs with additional platform capabilities
  • 5 (10:10) **Overview of the Agentic QE fleet** - Quality-oriented orchestration system covering the full SDLC with specialized agents and skills
  • 6 (14:33) **Skills versus agents** - Matrix analogy: skills are uploaded knowledge; agents are the bodies that execute them
  • 7 (15:50) **Installation and basic usage** - NPM install, AQE init, then invoke via Claude or CLI

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Show Notes

This podcast episode is a chat with Dragan Spiridonov who created the Agentic QE fleet. Agentic AI for Quality Engineering. It can work with code, or websites. We will explore Agentic AI, what it means, and how to use it to improve your Software Development and Testing. Also introduce the Agentic QE Fleet and how it augments Claude Code and Claude Flow.


We cover:


- Introduce Dragan Spiridonov and his work

- Introduce Agent Based Testing and Development

- Introduce and explain Agentic QE tooling

- Explain difference between Agentic QE tooling and Base Claude

- How has working on this changed Dragan's view of his skillsets and role

- How to learn: AI, Agentic AI, Agentic QE?

- Lessons learned from building and using AI that we can apply to any AI tooling

- Future of Agentic QE Tooling

- Future of AI in Testing and Development


Links:


- https://forge-quality.dev/

- https://www.linkedin.com/in/dragan-spiridonov/

- https://spiridonovdragan.com/

- https://agentic-qe.dev/

- Overview of Agentic Quality Engineering Fleet: Revolutionizing Software Testing with AI Agents https://video.agentics.org/media/t/1_htfe35tu/370465892

- https://quantum-qe.dev/

- https://github.com/proffesor-for-testing/agentic-qe

- https://github.com/ruvnet/claude-flow

- https://agentics.org/ 

- for video archive https://video.agentics.org

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