What you'll learn

• 1 (00:05) **Caller Ira Follows Up on Fighting for His Marriage** - Ira describes putting John’s advice into action with a John Cusack-style boom box stunt, only to have his wife respond “I don’t know” and later request a divorce.
• 2 (03:42) **John Applauds Ira for Leaving It All on the Field** - John praises Ira for going all-in, comparing it to an athlete who knows they gave their best effort even in defeat.
• 3 (05:59) **Co-Parenting After Divorce: The Core Principle** - John advises Ira to focus on being a cheerleader for his ex for the sake of their kids, ages five and seven.
• 4 (07:40) **Rules of Thumb for Co-Parenting with Integrity** - John warns never to speak ill of the other parent, as it wounds the child’s sense of self.
• 5 (10:52) **Kids’ Questions and the Dad Who Cries** - John normalizes kids’ confusion and validates Ira’s tears as a gift to his daughters: “them seeing their dad cry is a blessing of the highest order.”
• 6 (12:03) **Reframing Divorce as a Business Transaction** - John introduces the idea that once divorce is requested, the marriage is over and the relationship becomes a business arrangement.
• 7 (14:06) **The Next Practical Step: Mediation Over Litigation** - John urges Ira to sit down with his wife, confirm her decision, and propose a mediator to keep costs and drama low.

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