The Deep End w/Taylor Welch
The Deep End w/Taylor Welch

The Price of Purity (pruning, consecration, & temptation) w/Ezekiel Azonwu - 113

July 29, 2026

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The Price of Purity: Pruning, Consecration, and Temptation

Ezekiel Azonwu, founder of the "We Need to Talk" podcast and Band of Brothers discipleship community, sat down with Taylor Welch for a conversation that moved quickly past surface-level spiritual talk into the mechanics of how God actually forms a person. Azonwu, a Nigerian-American who grew up in Los Angeles steeped in spiritual warfare traditions, spent years avoiding the very conversations he now hosts—because, as he put it, "I don't really want problems with the devil. I'm just trying to preach the gospel." But God had other plans, and the process of getting him there cost him nearly everything.

The Prayer That Changed Everything

Azonwu's turning point came when he prayed a dangerous prayer: "God, I want to serve you in a way that costs me and gets my hands dirty." He had been successful—leading the largest Christian spoken word tour in the country for four years, building a platform, making money. But his kids told him they loved that he had a job, they just wished it wasn't this one. His daughter, when told that if Daddy didn't work the family couldn't eat, replied simply: "We don't gotta eat all the time."

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (01:10) **Morning Tied to Affections** - Ezekiel reveals the diagnostic question: what disrupts you more—disconnection from God or the loss of visible success?
  • 2 (03:53) **Nigerian Spiritual Sensitivity** - Ezekiel explains the cultural gift of spiritual warfare and the melody of Nigerian prayer.
  • 3 (05:41) **We Need to Heal Movement** - Ezekiel describes the vision for 100% healing and deliverance in a room by getting out of the way.
  • 4 (07:36) **The Cost of Being Trusted** - Taylor probes why Ezekiel prayed a dangerous prayer to do something that costs him, leading to the testimony of divine sabotage.
  • 5 (10:58) **The Sabotage of Success** - Ezekiel recounts how God systematically dismantled his businesses and closed every corporate door, leaving him applying to Home Depot.
  • 6 (12:20) **The Idolatry of Money** - Ezekiel reinterprets Matthew 6, arguing that poor people often have a deeper idolatry of money than the wealthy.
  • 7 (14:23) **Defining Good from God's Framework** - Ezekiel teaches that "good" was invented by God without consultation, so your experience cannot define what is good for you.

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Guests on this episode

Taylor Welch

Show Notes

Ezekiel's Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@UC38bNJV-Z15_bObHOwCiPSA
Deep End Websitehttps://deependtv.com

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