The Deep End w/Taylor Welch
The Deep End w/Taylor Welch

The Age of Counterfeits (Christian witches & warlocks, self-cursing spells, & sorcery)

July 24, 2026

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The Age of Counterfeits

"Most witches are the kindest people you'll ever meet." That's the opening Taylor Welch offers before diving into a two-hour conversation about witchcraft, sorcery, and what he calls "Christian witches"—believers who use spiritual technologies to control outcomes rather than submit to God. The central argument is that witchcraft is not primarily about broomsticks and potions; it is any attempt to use spiritual power to enforce your will on people, circumstances, or the future. And Welch believes this is far more common inside the church than outside it.

The Mechanism: Faith, Belief, and the Three Heavens

Welch builds his framework on a three-tier cosmology. The first heaven is the physical, tangible world. The third heaven is where God dwells. Between them sits the second heaven—the realm of emotions, beliefs, neurochemistry, and spiritual forces. Nothing moves from the third heaven into the first heaven without passing through the second heaven. This is why faith matters: it is the active ingredient that allows spiritual reality to manifest physically.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (01:31) **Opening: Why Witches & Warlocks?** - Taylor and Jake frame the conversation around witchcraft, sorcery, and why it matters for Christians today.
  • 2 (09:03) **What Do Witches Actually Say & What Happens?** - Jake presses for concrete examples of spells and their effects to make the phenomenon real.
  • 3 (18:04) **The Witch Doctor's Spell & The Nocebo Effect** - A detailed look at how a witch doctor's curse works through faith and expectation.
  • 4 (28:52) **Christian Witches & Warlocks: The Deception** - Taylor identifies the primary target of his message: Christians who unknowingly practice witchcraft.
  • 5 (40:01) **The Contract of Dominion & How Satan Stole It** - A deep dive into the Genesis story as a legal framework for spiritual authority.
  • 6 (49:09) **How Agreements Work in the Spirit** - The mechanism by which Satan or demons gain legal rights in a believer's life.
  • 7 (57:44) **Why Christian Witches Are More Dangerous** - Taylor contrasts his heart for new-age witches with his struggle to have compassion for Christian ones.

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Taylor Welch

Show Notes

October Event Tickets Sold Here: https://deependtv.com/eventsGo Deeper on Topics From the Showhttp://www.novosnetwork.com/kairosDeep End Websitehttps://deependtv.com/Get Weekly UpdatesText "TAW" to 615-845-5977@Taylor's Websitehttps://taylorawelch.com/Twitter: https://twitter.com/taylorawelchInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/@taylorawelchFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/taylorawelchprofileTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@taylorawelchFull Deep End Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsJLC9JVAX745VhRtK7BsoBWKXF0yVrsB&si=YqkT8lg5eFell2o3Listen to The Deep EndApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-deep-end-w-taylor-welch/id1500492987Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Pqrl9Xpuja6kSPjHUgxF4?si=0e673cd31d5d4217BIO:Taylor Welch is an investor & business consultant. His portfolio of companies have serviced over 50,000 individual small businesses in the last 5 years. He currently lives in Nashville Tennessee with his wife and 2 kidsCHAPTERS:00:00 Coming Up01:16 Warlocks and Witches01:57 Witchcraft vs Sorcery Basics02:13 Seeing Colors and Giftings07:05 Spells and Spiritual Tech09:40 Defining Witchcraft Today12:30 Placebo and Nocebo Explained17:36 African vs American Witchcraft19:37 Nocebo Stories and Extremes23:22 Casting Lots27:38 Christian Witches and Deception36:02 Genesis and Language Origins38:47 Nephesh and Human Authority41:53 Eden Contract Redefined43:20 Jesus Fulfills the Covenant44:39 Gospel as New Government45:47 Memorized Doctrine vs Relationship47:27 Agreements Give Darkness Access49:34 Spirit Realm Intention Matters52:14 Christian Witchcraft Exposed56:37 Why It Hides in Church01:00:04 Demons Riding Christians01:03:44 Spells Faith and Belief01:10:45 Infiltration Through Trusted Voices01:15:17 Leviathan vs Satan in Chaos01:18:56 Divination and Hidden Knowledge01:23:28 Omens and Soothsaying01:25:47 Mediums and Necromancy01:26:32 Source and Motives01:28:22 False Prophets and Fear01:32:47 Self Deception01:43:45 Perception Desire Action01:54:32 Words Without God’s Heart01:58:50 Jacob to Israel Shift02:07:47 Worship Calms the Body02:12:35 Four Part Spiritual Audit02:20:28 Humility and Invitation

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