The Deep End w/Taylor Welch
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Satan’s Counterfeits (demonic tongues, fear bonds, & distorted beliefs) w/Marcus Warner

September 16, 2026

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When Marcus Warner was a pastor, two women came to him for help. He walked the first through deliverance and inner healing, and she left fine. The second went through the same process—saw Jesus, had demons manifest and leave—and three days later was worse than before. The difference was maturity. The first woman had a decent capacity to handle life; she just needed some freedom. The second had been tortured as a child and had almost no capacity at all. Healing is easier than maturing. That distinction runs through Warner’s entire framework, which he has spent decades developing as president of Deeper Walk International.

The five engines of emotion

Warner teaches that emotions are driven by five engines, not just one. The first is the body—a two-way street where emotions affect the body and physical states affect emotions. The second is beliefs, also a two-way street: what you believe shapes what you feel, but what you feel also makes it easy to believe thoughts that justify the emotion. Daniel Amen’s “ANTS” (automatic negative thoughts) swarm in when you are already in a state of shame or fear. The third engine is bonding or attachment, and Warner calls this the deepest engine in the brain. The brain is designed to attach to people either out of fear or out of joy. “I can have a fear bond or I can have a joy bond,” he says. When your phone rings and you see who is calling

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What you'll learn

  • 1 Timestamped Outline
  • 2 (00:30) **Fear Bond vs. Joy Bond with God** - Marcus Warner introduces the central distinction driving the episode
  • 3 (01:24) **Testing Spiritual Languages for Demonic Origins** - Warner explains how they discovered counterfeit tongues in troubled believers
  • 4 (02:00) **Counterfeit Healing and Its Aftermath** - A case study shows how a demonic healing caused mental oppression
  • 5 (08:18) **The Three Categories of Tongues** - Authentic, demonic, and learned tongues explained
  • 6 (11:31) **The Root Source of a Self-Harm Compulsion** - A woman's 25-year-old counterfeit tongues gift was the entry point for demonic oppression
  • 7 (14:31) **The If Prayer Testing Method for Healings** - How to discern counterfeit from genuine healing

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Show Notes

Website: https://deeperwalk.comBook: A Deeper Walk: https://deeperwalk.com/product/a-deeper-walk-a-proven-path-for-developing-a-more-vibrant-faith-book/Podcast: https://deeperwalk.com/podcast Socials (Instagram, Facebook): @deeperwalkinternational https://www.instagram.com/deeperwalkinternational/

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