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5 min readRick Wurster, who became CEO of Charles Schwab on January 1, 2025, sat down with Josh Brown and Michael Batnick at the Future Proof conference in Miami Beach. The conversation covered Schwab’s record asset flows, the firm’s relationship with the RIA community, competition from Robinhood and Goldman Sachs, the role of prediction markets, and how AI is reshaping the advice business. Wurster was direct about where Schwab competes, where it does not, and how he thinks about the tension between serving retail clients and supporting the independent advisors who custody at Schwab.
The RIA relationship and the "compete" question
Wurster spent much of the conversation addressing the central tension in Schwab’s model: the firm serves both retail investors directly and the 16,000-plus independent RIAs who custody assets on its platform. When asked what he would say to an advisor worried that Schwab competes with them, Wurster was blunt: "If you ever find yourself in a situation where we are competing for a client, send me an email or call me." He argued that Schwab has "very clear rules of the road" and preferences the RIA in any direct conflict. He also pointed to the broader opportunity: Schwab and the RIAs together have only 14% of the U.S. retail wealth market. "There's 86% of the market we don't have that would be better served from someone in this audience or us serving them.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (01:43) **Introduction and Scale of Schwab** - Josh Brown introduces Rick Wurster as CEO of Charles Schwab, highlighting the firm's massive scale: $519 billion in core net new assets last year, 46.5 million new client accounts, and 22% revenue growth.
- 2 (05:18) **Wealth Management Growth and the RIA Channel** - Discussion on the 42% growth in advisory assets vs. 33% in retail, and the "bull market for convenience" driving clients to the RIA fiduciary model.
- 3 (09:06) **Schwab's Unmatched Custody Offerings** - Rick outlines what Schwab is most proud of on the custody side: a singular mission to make RIAs successful, a comprehensive platform (APIs, consulting, education, product), and a growing lending business to help RIAs compete against wirehouse balance sheets.
- 4 (11:10) **Areas for Improvement and the "Competing with Clients" Question** - Rick identifies making advisors' lives easier (e.g., digital account openings) as a key area of focus, with client satisfaction scores at an all-time high.
- 5 (15:22) **The Referral Program (SAN) Changes** - Rick explains the rationale for doubling the asset minimum for the Schwab Advisor Network referral program to $500M firm AUM and $2M client minimum.
- 6 (18:40) **Mega RIAs and the Competitive Landscape** - Discussion on the rise of $600B+ RIAs and whether Schwab has any regret about their growth. Rick expresses pride, stating their success validates the independent model and helps end investors.
- 7 (22:09) **Winning Gen Z and the Investing vs. Gambling Distinction** - Rick highlights that one-third of new client onboardings are Gen Z, and the average client age has dropped 10 years to mid-40s.
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Show Notes
On episode 233 of The Compound and Friends, Michael Batnick and Downtown Josh Brown are joined by Charles Schwab CEO Rick Wurster to discuss: the future of finance, AI's impact, being the $12 Trillion king of brokerages, and much more!
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