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09.08.26 Ask An Advisor With Wes Moss

September 8, 2026

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Consumer sentiment in May 2026 hit a lower score than it did during the worst of the pandemic. Yet consumer spending has continued to rise, now exceeding $22 trillion. This contradiction is the starting point for Wes Moss’s argument that the popular “K-shaped economy” label is misleading. In this episode of Ask an Advisor with Wes Moss, he proposes a different letter to describe what is actually happening, then answers listener questions about dry powder in retirement, liquidity ratios, interest rate risk, and whether to ignore conservative investing rules when you started saving late.

The E-Shaped Economy

Moss explains why the K-shaped model—where a small wealthy group rises while everyone else falls—is too simplistic. “It’s very exaggerated,” he says, noting that it ignores the large middle group of Americans who are neither at the top nor in freefall. He proposes the letter E instead, with three distinct legs.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (02:01) **Why the "K-Shaped Economy" Is Misleading** - Wes argues the K-shaped model is too binary and proposes an "E-shaped economy" with three distinct tiers.
  • 2 (08:58) **Dry Powder Explained: The Gunpowder Analogy** - Wes defines dry powder as safety assets and explains when to use and replenish them in retirement.
  • 3 (12:54) **The "Can I Afford It?" Tension: Gas Pedal vs. Brakes** - A listener with $3M net worth wants a dream car; Wes reframes the marital conflict as a healthy dynamic.
  • 4 (15:45) **Liquid vs. Illiquid Net Worth: A New Rule of Thumb** - A listener asks about the ideal ratio of liquid assets to home equity; Wes develops a guideline on the spot.
  • 5 (21:26) **What Happens If Interest Rates Keep Rising?** - Wes explains the impact on bonds, 401(k)s, and the consumer economy.
  • 6 (26:26) **Don't Abandon Fundamentals Because You Feel Behind** - A 62-year-old psychotherapist with $550K wants to stay 100% in stocks to catch up; Wes warns against this.
  • 7 (29:41) **Why AI Won't Replace Human Financial Advisors** - Wes shares a personal insight from his own life.

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Show Notes

Why the "K-Shaped" Economy is WRONG & What Rising Interest Rates Mean for You

Is the "K-shaped" economy an accurate description of what Americans are experiencing today? Wes breaks down why the economy looks less like a "K" and more like an "E" — and what that means for your money, spending, and job prospects.

Wes also tackles the burning question on every investor and homeowner's mind: What happens if interest rates keep rising? From the 10-Year Treasury yield to the inverse relationship between interest rates and bond prices, learn how potential rate hikes could impact your mortgage, car loans, and fixed-income portfolio.

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All this and more on the September 8, 2026, Ask an Advisor episode of the Clark Howard podcast. Submit your questions: WesMoss.com/ask

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