Sarah Longwell and Pedro Gonzalez: Meet the Young MAGA Edgelords—and the One Who Got Away
September 10, 2026
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5 min readThe MAGA Succession Question and One Man's Break
The Bulwark's Tim Miller opened this episode with a striking observation: Donald Trump spent the previous evening promising voters $5,000 dividends if Republicans win the midterms, plus a new $500 rebate check, on top of earlier promises of $2,000 "tariff dividends" and $5,000 DOGE stimulus checks. None have arrived in any mailbox. Sarah Longwell, publisher of The Bulwark and author of the new book How to Eat an Elephant: One Voter at a Time, immediately flagged the legality question: "I can't imagine that offering $5,000 to everybody if Republicans win—that feels illegal." Miller noted that Trump also announced a heavy midterm travel schedule, which Longwell dismissed as unlikely to move turnout among the "Trump-only voters" who don't show up for midterms.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (01:24) **Intro: Trump's Midterm Gambit & the Book Launch** - Tim Miller and Sarah Longwell open the show, discussing Trump's promise of $5,000 "dividends" to voters and the legality of such bribes.
- 2 (06:23) **Debate: Does Trump Care About Winning?** - Tim and Sarah spar over whether Trump is genuinely trying to win or just protecting himself from oversight.
- 3 (10:04) **Fetterman's Trumpalooza Appearance** - Tim and Sarah analyze John Fetterman's video testimonial at Trump's event, seeing it as a damaging signal.
- 4 (15:57) **Sarah Longwell's Book: "How to Eat an Elephant"** - Sarah discusses her new book, focusing on the "Trump's Children" chapter about young MAGA voters.
- 5 (24:14) **The Information Crisis & AI Threat** - Sarah and Tim discuss the challenge of reaching people in a post-truth information environment.
- 6 (31:27) **Interview: Pedro Gonzalez's Origin Story** - Pedro Gonzalez, a former MAGA edgelord, joins to explain his journey into and out of the movement.
- 7 (40:56) **Anthropology of MAGA: Race and Sex** - Pedro breaks down the two core animating forces of the modern MAGA movement.
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Show Notes
As Sarah explains in her new book, Trump has been so successful teaching a new generation of Republicans about the political value of vice signaling that Nazi talk and racism has become the norm among young MAGA edgelords. Disdain for women is also a key element. One former true believer, Pedro, says the right sees all of Trump's corruption and abuse of power as justified because he's focused on the country's true enemies: brown people, immigrants, and their white allies. And Vance buddying up to the racists shows that he is the real heir apparent to Trump. Plus, Tucker is not well, Trump keeps lying about handing out money, Pence can't seem to come to terms with how he enabled this moment we're in, and Pedro's anti-Tim tweets before his Road to Damascus moment.
Sarah Longwell and Pedro Gonzalez join Tim Miller.
show notes:
- Sarah's book, "How to Eat an Elephant: One Voter at a Time"
- Pedro's Substack
- Pedro's piece in The Nation
- The Bulwark, including Tim, live tonight on YouTube or Substack
- Cormac McCarthy's "The Road," mentioned by Pedro
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