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Texas Toast, Fantasy Murderers, Drake Maybe Back, Guess the Lines and MLB Playoffs With Cousin Sal

October 5, 2026

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In the fourth week of the NFL season, the Minnesota Vikings are 4-0 and nobody knows what to make of them. Bill Simmons and Cousin Sal spent a whole segment trying to figure out if a team with an offense this bad has ever started a season undefeated. The Vikings beat the Dolphins by five points despite scoring just one first-half touchdown all year. Their defense is blitzing constantly and getting away with it — for now. "It is about the worst 4-0 team I've seen," Simmons said. "They're just going to be the team we know who it is every year by usually November. They'll probably go 13-4 and we will not be able to wait to bet against them in round one."

The NFC hierarchy and the "cross-off" teams

The NFC playoff picture is taking shape around three strong teams from the NFC West — San Francisco, Seattle, and the Rams — plus the Cowboys as a fourth contender. The NFC North could send two teams, but Simmons is skeptical of the Packers ("a dumbass team") and the Vikings. The Lions defense is so bad that Simmons called it "a zet-bound of the NFL" that makes every opposing offense look great. The Bears, under Ben Johnson, might duct-tape their way to 10 wins.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (01:28) **Intro & Lions-Panthers Weirdness** - Bill and Sal set up the pod, mention a new Rewatchable on Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and dive into the strange Lions-Panthers game.
  • 2 (05:17) **QB Tiers & NFC Playoff Picture** - The guys debate quarterback tiers and the early NFC playoff landscape.
  • 3 (10:11) **The Hawkinson Slide & 4:00 PM Chaos** - A discussion on a player sliding at the one-yard line and the gambling insanity of the late afternoon games.
  • 4 (11:49) **The 4-0 Vikings: A Fraud Alert?** - Bill and Sal debate whether the undefeated Minnesota Vikings are a legitimate contender or a mirage.
  • 5 (14:28) **0-4 Teams & The Chargers' Broken Spirit** - The hosts examine the five winless teams and diagnose the Los Angeles Chargers' catastrophic start.
  • 6 (18:48) **Crossing Off the Cardinals & Chargers** - Bill and Sal officially eliminate two teams from playoff contention.
  • 7 (22:48) **Drake Maye is Back?** - A deep dive into the Patriots' upset win over the Bills, focusing on the quarterback's resurgence.

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Show Notes

The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Cousin Sal after the Lion-Panthers game to react to the game and to recap the rest of Week 4. Then, they guess the lines for Week 5 before ending with Parent Corner.


(0:00) Intro

(1:08) Lions-Panthers and the NFC playoff picture

(11:26) Dolphins-Vikings, Cardinals-Giants, Chargers-Seahawks

(31:35) Patriots-Bills and Cowboys-Texans

(44:34) Rams-Eagles and Chiefs-Raiders

(54:40) Broncos-49ers and Jaguars-Bengals

(01:02:12) Jets-Bears and Packers-Buccaneers

(01:04:12) Colts-Commanders

(01:07:24) Guess the Lines Week 5

(01:34:34) Parent Corner

(01:47:43) MLB and WNBA playoffs


Host: Bill Simmons

Guest: Cousin Sal

Producers: Chia Hao Tat, Eduardo Ocampo, and Chris Wohlers


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