2026 Finals Lessons, Giannis’s Next Stop, Brunson’s Apex, and Mike Brown’s Magic Touch With Doc Rivers
June 17, 2026
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5 min readThe 2026 Finals Turned on a Single Press Conference
Doc Rivers, who played for both the Knicks and Spurs during his career, found himself torn watching the 2026 NBA Finals. But by the end, he just wanted more basketball. His son Spencer, a Spurs fan who grew up in San Antonio, felt the opposite: "I can't take them doing the same thing every game. Getting out to a lead. Losing the lead. Here comes Brunson."
The series changed after Game 3, when San Antonio won and Mike Brown walked into the media room to complain about fouls. Rivers thinks it was a brilliant move—whether intentional or not. From that point forward, the whistles shifted. In Game 5, Brunson shot 18 free throws. More critically, Stephon Castle picked up his fourth foul right before the second quarter, forcing him to sit as Brunson got cooking. Castle picked up his fourth two minutes into the third quarter, then his fifth soon after. Brunson's entire 29-point scoring stretch happened without Castle on the floor. The rookie never recovered. "You could see he was worried about it," Rivers says. "He was thinking about it." Castle's last two drives of the series—drives he hadn't attempted all postseason—came because the Spurs were suddenly afraid to foul him.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (02:03) **Doc Rivers on the Finals: The Turning Point** - Doc joins Bill to break down the 2026 NBA Finals, immediately identifying the moment the series shifted.
- 2 (08:59) **The Closer Problem** - A discussion on the importance of having a reliable player to close games, contrasting the Knicks’ certainty with the Spurs’ uncertainty.
- 3 (11:57) **Wembanyama’s Fatigue and Future Development** - The conversation shifts to Wembanyama’s stamina and the specific offensive moves he needs to develop to become unstoppable.
- 4 (19:15) **Jalen Brunson’s Apex and the Definition of Greatness** - Bill and Doc debate where Brunson now ranks historically and what truly defines a great player.
- 5 (25:58) **The Second-Best Player Dilemma** - The conversation explores how the 2026 Spurs mirrored the 90s Knicks in lacking a consistent second star.
- 6 (31:51) **Eras, What-Ifs, and the Magic Johnson Effect** - A detour into historical hypotheticals and the intangible impact of a true winner like Magic.
- 7 (37:44) **Mike Brown’s Masterclass and the Value of Depth** - Doc praises Mike Brown’s coaching performance, highlighting his courage to dig deep into his bench.
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Show Notes
The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Doc Rivers to talk about the NBA Finals, Knicks coaching, Giannis trades, and much, much more!
(0:00) Intro
(2:37) Doc Rivers’s NBA Finals reaction, Brunson’s greatness, and Mike Brown’s coaching
(01:07:44) Giannis’s next stop, worries for coaches in 2026, and best current referees
Host: Bill Simmons
Guest: Doc Rivers
Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo
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