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A Big Shift in the AI Race

The U.S. government shut down Anthropic's Mythos and Fable 5 models five days ago, and negotiations remain stalled. Anthropic sent technical staff—Chief Compute Officer Tom Brown, head of external affairs Sarah Hack, head of red teaming Logan Graham, and senior security researcher Nicholas Carlini—to Washington for what were largely technical discussions. But none of the key architects of the shutdown decision attended, including National Cyber Director Sean Cairncross, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, or White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles. As one observer put it, it's questionable whether anyone in the room had authority to actually call off the ban.

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  • 1 (00:49) **Anthropic government negotiations begin** - Five days after the Mythos/Fable shutdown, Anthropic sends technical leaders to Washington
  • 2 (01:36) **Nicholas Carlini profile and warnings** - WSJ highlights the hacker's shift from skeptic to internal advocate against Mythos release
  • 3 (02:56) **Government side of the meetings** - Commerce, CAISI, and National Cyber Director staff participate; key decision-makers absent
  • 4 (03:24) **Mythos versus Fable distinction clarified** - Commerce signaled openness to restoring Fable with a jailbreak fix; Mythos faces separate export-control concerns
  • 5 (04:29) **Jailbreak mechanics and model behavior** - Atlantic coverage revisits that Fable refuses to review insecure code but will patch it when asked
  • 6 (05:35) **Commerce Department letter released** - Bloomberg publishes the full shutdown order threatening criminal and civil penalties
  • 7 (06:20) **Regulatory regime concerns raised** - Experts call the ad-hoc licensing approach legally vulnerable and bad for all parties

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The AI race is entering a new phase as SpaceX turns its IPO momentum into AI leverage, Cursor becomes part of Elon Musk’s broader strategy, and OpenAI’s leaked financials tell a more complicated story than the skeptics suggest. In the headlines: the latest in the Anthropic-Washington fight over Fable 5, Mythos, and what's really behind the government’s cybersecurity concerns.

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