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UFO Whistleblowers: Can They Trust PURSUE? | Tehran UFO & Vallée’s Contact Claims

September 22, 2026

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UFO Whistleblowers, Tehran Lights, and Vallée’s Contact Claims

The episode opens with host Pavel and returning guest Andy McGrillen (Daddy Of O podcast) catching up after Andy’s first real break from the topic in six and a half years. They wade into a dense week of developments: a viral object over Tehran, a new call for whistleblowers from the government’s Pursuit office, fresh file drops from the 1950s, and Jacques Vallée’s quiet bombshell about a controlled communication with a non-human entity.

The Tehran Object: Kite, Drone, or Something Else?

On September 19, a massive blackout hit Buenos Aires, leaving 600,000 people without power. Multiple angles showed three stationary lights in the sky. That video was legitimate, though a separate April video from the same city caused initial confusion. More attention, however, fell on footage from Tehran the same day. One clip showed what looked like flares dropped by an aircraft — the plane is visible in close-up. The other, which went viral globally, showed a hovering object with multicolored lights.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (02:11) **Welcome & Return Guest** - Host Pavel welcomes back co-host Andy McGrillen from a vacation; they set the tone for a news-heavy catch-up episode.
  • 2 (05:49) **Tehran UFO & The September 19th Coincidence** - The hosts begin reviewing a major UFO sighting in Tehran, Iran, noting it occurred on the 49th anniversary of the famous 1976 Tehran UFO incident.
  • 3 (10:04) **Debating the “Tehran Kite”** - Andy argues the Tehran object is likely a kite with RGB strip lights, a common consumer item, rather than an alien craft or secret tech.
  • 4 (15:30) **Tim Burchett’s Take on the Tehran Object** - The hosts play a clip of Rep. Tim Burchett discussing the Tehran object on the Benny Johnson show, where he speculates it could be a psy-op by the Trump administration.
  • 5 (18:05) **PURSUE’s New Call for Whistleblowers** - The discussion shifts to the newly announced “PURSUE” office, which has issued a formal call for government and military whistleblowers to come forward directly to them.
  • 6 (22:07) **The Trust Problem: Who is PURSUE?** - The hosts debate the core issue: no one knows who is actually running PURSUE, making potential whistleblowers hesitant to trust it.
  • 7 (25:00) **To the Stars & The Straton Book** - The conversation turns to Tom DeLonge’s “To the Stars” and Jay Stratton’s upcoming book, with Andy suggesting the former is now just a media company.

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Show Notes

Who is behind PURSUE, and why should UFO whistleblowers trust it?

I’m joined by Pavel to discuss the unanswered questions around PURSUE’s call for whistleblowers, the viral footage from Tehran, and Jacques Vallée’s intriguing account of alleged communication with a non-human entity.

We get into:

• The Tehran “UFO”: something extraordinary, or LED lights on a kite?
• PURSUE, transparency and the risks facing whistleblowers.
• Matthew Brown and Vanguard’s efforts to support those coming forward.
• UFO File Drop 6, including 1952 footage and Edward Ruppelt’s discussion of unexplained sightings.
• Vallée’s “Gilbert” account and claims of contact in a controlled setting.
• Trump, disclosure expectations and Chris Bledsoe’s October 7 prediction.

Plus, why questioning a viral video doesn’t mean dismissing the UFO subject and what genuinely compelling evidence might mean for the wider world.

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