Skywatcher Goes In-House? Ross Coulthart’s White Sands Claims & UAP Crash Retrievals

August 11, 2026

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In January 2025, journalist Ross Coulthart introduced Jake Barber, a former helicopter pilot who claimed his job involved retrieving non-human craft for a secretive organization called Skywatcher. The interview included a video of an alleged "egg" object, and Barber made bold promises: Skywatcher could summon UAPs using either a mechanical "dog whistle" device or a team of psionic individuals who could call objects in with their minds. Within twelve months, Barber said, they would present public, peer-reviewed proof. By August 2026, that deadline has come and gone, and the story has taken a far stranger turn.

The Rise and Quiet Fade of Skywatcher

Skywatcher was privately funded through Alex Klokus and the Sol Foundation. Its public rollout included polished mini-documentaries showing tetrahedrons and jellyfish-shaped objects, though the video quality was often poor. James Fowler, who owned the dog whistle technology, was a central figure. Gary Nolan, the well-respected Stanford scientist, was involved early on but said he would walk away if the project ever tried to harm the objects they summoned.

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What you'll learn

1 (02:45) **Opening Banter & Housekeeping** - Andy and Pavel kick off the Monday live show, joking about a fake "top 10 podcaster earnings" post that fooled John Stewart.
2 (04:59) **The Two Camps of UFO Advocacy** - The hosts contrast the 2017-era public-facing figures (Elizondo, Mellon) with the 2023-era whistleblowers (Grusch, Barber) who are pursuing tangible, actionable information.
3 (08:04) **The Value of the Document Drops & Richard Dolan** - Andy defends the quality of the recent UAP file releases, arguing that poor public reaction stems from a lack of reading, not poor content.
4 (13:36) **Skywatcher: The Story So Far (Jan 2025 - Aug 2026)** - Andy recaps the entire Skywatcher saga from Jake Barber's initial interview to the present day, setting the stage for Ross Coulthart's update.
5 (28:48) **Ross Coulthart's Wild New Claims** - The hosts introduce Ross Coulthart's latest report, which alleges Skywatcher has been absorbed by the US government and is now actively shooting down UAPs.
6 (42:14) **Playing the Ross Coulthart Clip: "Summon, Detect & Shoot Down"** - The core allegation is presented: the US government is using Skywatcher's own "dog whistle" and psionic techniques to intercept and shoot down UAPs, with President Trump's authorization.
7 (45:36) **Analyzing the "In-House" Theory** - Andy and Pavel debate whether Skywatcher was always a setup to be absorbed, or if this is a genuine fast-track to disclosure.

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Guests on this episode

Ross Coulthart

Show Notes

Andy and Pavel break down Ross Coulthart’s extraordinary new reporting on Skywatcher and what may have happened after the public-facing project went quiet.

Ross claims individuals and techniques connected to Skywatcher have effectively been taken “in-house”, with a covert US government operation at White Sands allegedly using the same Dog Whistle technology and psionic methods to summon, detect and even attempt to bring down UAP. He further claims the operation was personally authorised by President Trump and designed to circumvent the alleged Legacy Program.

We get into the El Paso shutdown, White Sands, the alleged use of directed-energy weapons, questions over civilian aircraft, Garry Nolan’s involvement, whether Ross’s sources can be trusted, and the uncomfortable ethics of deliberately summoning something only to shoot at it.

Plus, TIME Magazine asks why America is finally taking extraterrestrials seriously, as the UFO subject continues its move into mainstream scientific and political discussion.

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