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Dr Matthew Szydagis: UFOs, Dark Matter & The Science of UAP

May 12, 2026

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Dr. Matthew Szydagis, an experimental physicist at the University at Albany SUNY, conducts searches for dark matter with the LZ detector while also applying data-driven methods to unidentified aerial phenomena through groups such as UAPX and the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies. His perspective draws direct parallels between the two fields: both involve rare, hard-to-detect signals that were once dismissed outright, and both require patient, multi-year instrumentation rather than quick confirmation.

Dark matter work as a template for UAP study

Szydagis builds and operates large liquid-xenon detectors placed deep underground to shield them from cosmic rays. The goal is to record an extremely low-rate interaction that would reveal the nature of dark matter, whose existence is inferred from galactic rotation curves and cosmological data but remains unidentified. The same habits transfer to UAP: emphasis on calibrated sensors, background subtraction, reproducible triggers, and metadata that survives later scrutiny. He notes that colleagues in mainstream particle physics often view UAP work as outside the culture, yet the underlying experimental discipline is identical.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (01:07) **Podcast Introduction & Guest Background** - Andy introduces Dr. Matthew Szydagis as experimental physicist and UAP researcher
  • 2 (03:05) **Definition of Experimental Physicist** - Clarifies the difference between experimental and theoretical physics
  • 3 (04:13) **Dark Matter Explanation** - Describes what dark matter is and the LZ experiment setup
  • 4 (05:58) **Stigma Around UAP in Science** - Discusses cultural and historical taboo within physics community
  • 5 (08:16) **How Dark Matter Work Shapes UAP Approach** - Explains transferable mindset for rare, high-impact phenomena
  • 6 (11:22) **Transfer of Scientific Skills to UAP** - Details general expertise brought from particle astrophysics
  • 7 (12:33) **Origins of Interest in UFOs** - Childhood influences from Unsolved Mysteries and Star Trek

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Show Notes

Andy is joined by experimental physicist Dr Matthew Szydagis to examine the UFO/UAP subject through a scientific lens.

Matthew discusses his work in dark matter research, how experimental physics can be applied to UAP, what real evidence should look like, and why multiple sensor data matters. They also get into the recent UFO files release, anti-gravity, exotic propulsion, time travel, missing time, interdimensional theories, Bob Lazar, scientific stigma, and the upcoming SCU Conference 2026.

A grounded conversation on where the science stands, where speculation begins, and what it would take to move the UAP conversation forward.

Find Matthew / SCU:
explorescu.org

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