David Grusch Back on Rogan? Trump’s “Starfleet” & the Next Disclosure Push

David Grusch may soon return to Joe Rogan’s podcast, and the panel on That UFO Podcast — host Andy, regular guest Pavel, and propulsion specialist Jack (aka “Missile Man”) — treat this as a potential turning point. The conversation sprawls across the politics of getting Donald Trump’s attention on UAP, the nature of non-human intelligence, nuclear propulsion, the militarization of space, and the limits of what whistleblowers can say. The throughline is a sobering one: disclosure is not a single event but a grinding, strategic campaign fought through media appearances, back-channel persuasion, and the slow conversion of elites who have every reason to look away.

The Rogan–Trump–Disclosure Triangle

The panel agrees that a second Grusch appearance on Rogan matters less for what Grusch might say than for who might hear it. Jack notes that Rogan has expressed skepticism about UFO guests, so a more enthusiastic Rogan endorsement of Grusch’s credibility could ripple through the “MAGA-adjacent” media sphere and reach Trump’s inner circle indirectly. Andy points out that Grusch does not sell books or documentaries — he picks his appearances deliberately — so a Rogan return likely means he has new, cleared information to share, not a rehash.