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#793: China Is Funding The War On Data Centers with Sam Lyman

September 19, 2026

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China Is Funding The War On Data Centers

Sam Lyman, director of public policy at the Bitcoin Policy Institute, spent his summer doing something unusual: using AI to defend AI. He burned through thousands of tokens running pattern-recognition queries against Chinese state media, trying to prove what he suspected—that a coordinated foreign influence campaign was turning Americans against data centers. What he found was a web of propaganda, a Shanghai-based Marxist financier, and a network of U.S. nonprofits that had already stopped $24 billion in AI infrastructure investment.

The Discovery

Lyman's investigation began years earlier, when he worked at Riot Platforms, a Bitcoin mining and AI/HPC company building a data center in rural Texas. The community initially supported the project. Then, out of nowhere, opposition erupted—driven by a woman who didn't even live in the county. She spread falsehoods on Facebook about water usage and electricity consumption. Tracing the source, Lyman found she had partnered with Greenpeace, which had itself received significant funding from Ripple (XRP) years earlier to spread FUD about Bitcoin's energy use.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (00:07) **Opening & Setting the Stage** - Marty and Sam Lyman begin with a discussion on the current political landscape for crypto and AI, framing the show's core topics: regulatory clarity, data center build-out, and foreign propaganda.
  • 2 (01:47) **Regulatory Clarity: The Hill Vibe & Agency Action** - Sam explains the mood in Washington after the clarity bill failed, and how agencies like the SEC, CFTC, and OCC are moving forward with regulations that effectively act as the bill's substitute.
  • 3 (07:43) **The Investigation: Foreign Influence on Data Centers** - Sam recounts the origin of his research, starting with his experience at Riot Platforms, where a local activist spread misinformation about a Bitcoin mining data center, later traced back to Greenpeace and rival crypto interests.
  • 4 (11:07) **The "Schizo Chart" & The Scale of the Operation** - Sam explains how he used AI to connect the dots between Chinese state media, Singham's funded nonprofits, and the resulting public opinion shift.
  • 5 (15:31) **Debunking Data Center FUD** - Marty, drawing on his experience in Bitcoin mining, systematically refutes common anti-data center talking points.
  • 6 (18:43) **The Case for Data Center Dividends** - Sam introduces the concept of "data center dividends," a policy proposal to turn the surplus tax revenue from data centers into direct payments to households in rural host counties.
  • 7 (26:58) **Who Leads the Dividend Initiative?** - The conversation turns to implementation, with Sam arguing that county governments have the leverage to demand such arrangements.

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Show Notes

Sam Lyman of the Bitcoin Policy Institute joins Marty Bent to break down the collapse of the CLARITY Act, the stablecoin fight dividing community banks and Wall Street, and new bank charters reshaping crypto regulation. Lyman details his investigation into Chinese-funded propaganda campaigns — linked to financier Neville Singham — driving opposition to AI data centers, and unveils "data center dividends," a plan modeled on the Alaska Permanent Fund to pay rural households thousands per year. The conversation also tackles effective altruism, AI doomerism, the Anthropic-OpenAI duopoly, open source AI, and the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve bill ARMA.

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