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5 min readHook: Artist Katie Paterson once rigged a live phone line into a melting glacier in Iceland. People from the UK to Iraq dialed in, one at a time, to hear the ancient ice thaw. When the line was busy, callers got a busy signal: the glacier was occupied.
That artwork, Vatnajökull (the sound of), was an attempt to let people listen live to a natural process that once took millennia but is now happening exponentially faster. For Paterson, the glacier is not just a casualty of climate change—it is a clock. Her work repeatedly tries to make deep time a sensory experience, collapsing the distance between human lifespans and the billions of years that stretch before and after us.
This episode of the TED Radio Hour, hosted by Manoush Zamarodi, explores how we experience time. It moves from Paterson’s cosmic art to the neuroscience of heartbeats, the active listening tools of a conductor, and the late psychologist Philip Zimbardo’s framework for how our time orientation shapes our decisions. The through-line is that time is not a fixed, objective flow. It is constructed by the brain, molded by the body, and influenced by how we choose to pay attention.
The Heartbeat as a Timekeeper
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- 1 How we experience time
- 2 Timestamped Outline
- 3 (01:04) **Episode Introduction** - Host Manoush Zamarodi introduces the theme: how we experience time, starting with artist Katie Paterson's work connecting listeners to deep time
- 4 (04:08) **Exploring Deep Time Through Art** - Paterson explains her fascination with time spans far beyond human lifespans, reaching into millions and billions of years
- 5 (05:43) **Earth, Moon, Earth: Beethoven's Sonata to the Moon** - Paterson describes beaming Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata to the moon and back using radio technology
- 6 (08:07) **There Lay the Days Between: Counting Earth's Sunrises** - Paterson's ticker board artwork displays the total number of sunrises since Earth began
- 7 (10:36) **Confronting the Finiteness of Time** - Paterson reflects on how her art makes people confront the bounded nature of space and time
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Show Notes
Guests include artist Katie Paterson, cognitive neuroscientist Irena Arslanova, the late music director Robert Franz and the late psychologist Philip Zimbardo.
Original broadcast date: May 16, 2025
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