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5 min readWhen the co-founders of Starter Story, Pat Walls and Madison Skinner, sit down to evaluate a new business idea, their first move is not to build a prototype or survey friends. It is to open Google Chrome and run a keyword search. They are looking for evidence that people are already searching for what they want to sell—and that the volume is high enough to sustain a business. The core insight of this conversation is that validation is not a gut feeling or a single data point. It is a systematic process of layering cheap, public data sources until you either find a signal worth pursuing or kill the idea before you waste time and money.
The keyword-first method
The validation process starts with the Keyword Everywhere Chrome extension, which surfaces monthly search volume for any term a user types into Google. Walls and Skinner use this to orient themselves inside a broad market. If someone is interested in selling Swedish massage products, for example, they look at the search volume for "Swedish massage" and then dig into the related keyword list to find sub-niches that might be less competitive. The goal is not to confirm that a huge market exists—it is to find a pocket within a market that has clear, demonstrated demand. The extension costs a few dollars and takes minutes to use. It is the cheapest filter available.
Using Google Trends for direction, not certainty
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What you'll learn
- 1 (01:15) **Validating Market Demand with Keyword Tools** - The speaker introduces a practical method for checking if a market has demand before committing to an idea.
- 2 Standout Quotes
- 3 (02:09) "Imagine if having your cake and eating it too was about banking, not baking." - A clever opener for a sponsor segment about Silicon Valley Bank.
- 4 Mentioned Resources
- 5 Keyword Everywhere (Google Chrome Extension)
- 6 Google Trends
+ Full timestamped outline available in the app
Guests on this episode
Show Notes
Quickly validate if your idea is worth anything
Sharing ideas that make money!
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