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5 min readChef and entrepreneur Claus Meyer built a career that transformed Danish food culture, co-founded Noma, and launched an ambitious New York venture that earned a Michelin star after four months. But the New York project was an economic failure, and when he returned to Denmark, Meyer found himself in a depression so deep that he doubted he would ever contribute professionally again. In this conversation with host Sørine Godfredsen, Meyer describes how that collapse forced him to confront a pattern he had carried since childhood: the exhausting belief that he had to perform in order to be loved.
The childhood wound
Meyer was born in 1963 in Nykøbing Falster to teenage parents. His early years were warm, especially because of his grandmother, whom he calls "the light of my life." But when his grandmother died and his parents separated, the family structure collapsed. His father, a self-employed tool dealer struggling in an unwanted marriage, became distant and critical, calling Meyer fat and telling him he would never be good at anything. The most violent memory came when Meyer was 13 or 14: he borrowed his father's Jacoform shoes after his own got wet, and his father hit him on the side of the head with an open hand. The next day, Meyer wrote a note: "Dad, you lost your son yesterday." He says he never felt love for his father after that moment.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:29) **Introduction and Framing** - Sørine Godfredsen introduces the podcast's theme of life force and introduces guest Claus Meyer, chef and entrepreneur.
- 2 (02:39) **The Foreword and the Fear of Performing** - Sørine presents a written foreword about Claus, which he reads aloud: "You are a person who never fears to get rid of the feeling that you have to perform in order to be loved."
- 3 (04:25) **The New York Failure and Its Aftermath** - Claus describes his failed entrepreneurial project in New York, which led to a deep personal crisis.
- 4 (07:06) **A Moment of Grace: The Lord's Prayer** - Claus recounts a pivotal moment of cycling through Copenhagen and hearing a musical version of The Lord's Prayer.
- 5 (09:49) **Childhood: Early Joy and Family Collapse** - The conversation shifts to Claus's childhood in Nykøbing Falster, which was initially happy but then fractured.
- 6 (12:41) **The Relationship with His Father** - Claus describes the painful and distant relationship with his father during his childhood.
- 7 (15:28) **The Note and the Rupture** - After being hit, Claus wrote a note to his father: "Dad, you lost your son yesterday."
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Show Notes
Til sin konfirmation holdt Claus Meyer en tale, hvori han sagde, at han ikke havde noget at takke sine forældre for. Hans barndom var nemlig præget af en tyrannisk far, der både mobbede og udskammede Claus. Derfor var det også faderens ord: "Du er ikke andet end en tyk dreng fra Lolland, der rumsterede i baghovedet på Claus Meyer, da hans storstilede projekt om at overtage madscenen i New York fejlede. Men midt i mørket blev fundet af en gammel tennissko på forunderlig vis en påmindelse om, at selv når alting går galt, så kunne han altid finde tilbage til livets basale glæder: at spille tennis og bage et brød.
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