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5 min readIn September 2021, Apollo Global Management closed its $5 billion acquisition of Yahoo from Verizon, and Jim Lanzone started as CEO that same month. Five years later, the company has already returned Apollo’s initial investment—one of the fastest such paybacks in the firm’s history—and Lanzone argues Yahoo is now in “comeback phase,” not turnaround. The key insight from the conversation is that Yahoo’s most valuable asset was never its technology or its ad stack; it was 700 million monthly users, three-quarters of whom arrive directly (not via SEO) and are logged in. Lanzone’s playbook has been to reorganize around that audience, shed everything that distracts from serving it, and rebuild the products that had been neglected for a decade.
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- 1 (01:02) **Jim Lanzone's Arrival and the $5B Apollo Deal** - Jim Lanzone joins the podcast to discuss the playbook behind Yahoo's turnaround, five years after Apollo's $5B acquisition from Verizon.
- 2 (04:27) **The Turnaround Playbook: Why Yahoo Had "Great Bones"** - Lanzone walks through his first six months, explaining why this was his third major internet turnaround and how the initial phase is about learning, not firing.
- 3 (07:35) **Why This Isn't a Traditional PE Playbook** - Lanzone defends his working relationship with Apollo, arguing they are aligned on growth and an IPO, not just cost-cutting.
- 4 (09:37) **Reorganizing the Conglomerate: The GM Structure** - The first major structural change was breaking up the centralized Verizon-era management into independent, entrepreneurial business units.
- 5 (12:46) **The "Original Sin" of Yahoo and Refocusing the Mission** - Lanzone identifies the strategic error of outsourcing search to Google in 2000 and explains how the new mission was to return to Yahoo's roots as a "trusted guide."
- 6 (17:19) **Divesting AOL and the Ad Tech Transformation** - Lanzone details the painful but necessary process of selling off or shutting down legacy assets, including the massive ad tech business.
- 7 (22:03) **"You Can't Skip Levels of the Video Game"** - Lanzone explains the disciplined, sequential process of rebuilding the company from product to brand to new innovation.
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Show Notes
Apollo bought Yahoo and AOL from Verizon in 2021 for about $5B. 5 years later, Yahoo has returned Apollo’s capital in one of the fastest returning deals in the firm’s history.
Jim Lanzone has been CEO of Yahoo since September 2021. Yahoo ranks among the top 5 internet companies in the US, reaching roughly 90% of the American online population and 700M users globally each month across Finance, Sports, Mail, News, and Search. Jim previously served as CEO of Tinder, CBS Interactive, where he launched CBS All Access (now Paramount+), and Ask Jeeves, and co-founded eTour. He sits on the board of Snap.
We go inside the Apollo acquisition, a structure of roughly $4.25B in cash, $750M in preferred interests, and a 10% stake retained by Verizon, and how Jim works with Reed Rayman, now Head of the AI Sector at Apollo and still Yahoo’s board chair. Jim walks through reorganizing Yahoo into GM-led brands, shutting down and selling a money-losing ad tech stack, and divesting EdgeCast, TechCrunch, and AOL, which went to Bending Spoons for a reported $1.4B to $1.5B. We also cover Yahoo Scout, the company’s first in-house search engine in 17 years, and why startups with less than one-tenth of 1% of Yahoo’s users carry higher valuations.
“It’s one of the fastest returning deals in the history of Apollo. We are playing with house money now for what the upside could be here.”
We cover:
› Inside Apollo’s ~$5B acquisition and the deal structure
› Working with Apollo’s Reed Rayman on a growth-led turnaround
› Divesting AOL, EdgeCast, TechCrunch, and the ad tech stack
› Yahoo Scout, AI search, and 30 years of search data
› 700M monthly users and Yahoo’s valuation vs AI startups
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