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He’s Written 1600 Obituaries. What Has He Learned About Life?

September 29, 2026

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Sam Roberts has written roughly 1,600 obituaries for the New York Times, and he keeps a running draft of Rudy Giuliani’s that he updates almost weekly because “it keeps getting worse.” The hardest part, he says, is fitting a misdeed or a grudgeful act into the arc of a whole life. “So with Rudy, you know, he was a gladiatorial prosecutor… a mayor who proved the city was governable… and then after he lost the presidency in 2008, he kind of went off the deep end.” Roberts has to decide how to describe someone who was indicted, disbarred, and sued without letting the headline become a verdict. That tension — between honesty and proportion — is the central craft problem of the obituary writer.

The job is not about death

Roberts did not want the assignment. He came from a Brooklyn culture where death was denied — after his father died, his aunt told a neighbor six months later that Arthur was “so so.” When the Times asked him to write obituaries, he was not pleased. But he realized that obituaries are not about death. “Death is mentioned in one sentence in the obituary. The rest is storytelling — mini biographies.” He discovered that there are no ordinary lives. The question he poses to readers is: who would you miss more, your mayor or your mailman? The mailman touches your life every day in a way you take for granted. That insight reshaped his approach.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 Timestamped Navigation Outline
  • 2 (01:02) **What Writing Obituaries Teaches About Life** - Sam Roberts, NYT obituary writer of 1,600 obits, introduces his work and the concept of "nearly departed" advanced obituaries
  • 3 (02:25) **The Rudy Giuliani Obituary Problem** - How to write a lead for someone whose career trajectory went from hero to scandal
  • 4 (04:00) **What Makes It Into the Giuliani Draft** - The specific moments Roberts includes to capture a person's essence
  • 5 (05:55) **The Osama bin Laden Obituary Controversy** - Why including humanizing details in obituaries matters
  • 6 (06:36) **From Reluctant Obit Writer to Lifelong Practitioner** - Roberts' path to the obituary desk after 50+ years in journalism
  • 7 (08:50) **Why Readers Devour Obituaries** - The psychology behind our fascination with death notices

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Show Notes

Nayeema sits down with Sam Roberts, the New York Times obituary reporter who’s studied some 120,000 years of life while penning obits for everyone from Washington’s most powerful people to Hollywood’s most famed vet and … Jesus Christ? So what has Roberts learned studying this much life? Who even gets an NYT obit? How do they handle scandal, mistresses or secret babies? Which is the meanest obituary Sam’s ever drafted? And is 92 the new … 82?

Fact Check: At some point Sam says he may be, at age 79, the oldest staff reporter at The New York Times. He is not in fact the oldest. Also at some point, Nayeema says Sam is a spring chicken. Sam is not, in fact, a chicken.

Be sure to get Sam’s book, appropriately titled, “Are They Dead Yet?”

ICYMI - last week’s SGDQ Episode was all about how **AI could kill us all** so today’s on how we’ll be remembered, and how we choose to live, is particularly timely…. 

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