Can We Get Better at Flirting … with Rejection?

August 25, 2026

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Francesca Hogie, a certified love coach and former Survivor contestant who was voted off the island twice, has a provocative starting point for anyone afraid of romantic rejection: "Rejection isn't real." She doesn't mean that people don't say no or break up with you. She means that the pain comes from the story you attach to the event, not the event itself. For Hogie, flirting is the primary skill for navigating that fear, and she defines it broadly as "words and actions that are intended to make another person feel seen, special and acknowledged." That foundation applies to everyone—romantic partners, colleagues, even the barista—but the intimidating layer is when you add "desired by you specifically." The key to getting better, she argues, is to stop treating flirting as a mysterious talent and start treating it as a teachable, practiceable skill.

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What you'll learn

1 (00:00) **Flirting as Risking Rejection** - Francesca introduces her core philosophy: rejection isn't real, drawing on her experience being voted off Survivor twice.
2 (02:36) **Why Introverts Can Be Better Flirts** - Francesca explains the counterintuitive advantage introverts have over extroverts.
3 (06:59) **The Eight Styles of Flirting** - Francesca lists and describes eight distinct flirting styles, from playful to mysterious.
4 (13:03) **Flirting in Long-Term Relationships** - Francesca notes that flirting is crucial for keeping romance alive in established relationships, not just for finding new ones.
5 (14:58) **HR-Approved Flirting at Work** - Francesca offers advice for navigating workplace romance, emphasizing a slow, patient approach.
6 (16:32) **Live Flirting Analysis with Diplo** - Host Naima plays a clip of her famously flirtatious interview with Diplo for Francesca's real-time critique.
7 (24:02) **Role Play: From B to A in Flirting** - Francesca and Naima role-play a scenario at Trader Joe's to demonstrate how to upgrade a flirtatious interaction.

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Guests on this episode

Naima Raza

Show Notes

Whether you’re single, married or something in between: this episode is for you. Nayeema sits down with love coach and rejection survivor Francesca Hogi to talk about flirting as a way of life and rejection as a path to growth. Plus, Franny grades Nayeema’s Flirting Skills (and Diplo’s). Is anyone getting an A?!

We get into the 8 types of flirting, how A.I. can or can’t help you in your relationships, and other nuggets from Franny’s book. Plus: can you actually LEARN how to flirt? Is it just improv on steroids? What is HR-approved flirting? And are some people just TOO good at dating to ever be vulnerable?

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