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5 min readThe Longevinauts: A Personal Investigation into Living Forever
Host Mongai Shit was 47 when he started noticing the cultural noise around longevity—billionaires injecting themselves with cow brains, biohackers tracking every erection, and influencers promising to reverse aging. He wasn't particularly interested in living forever. But then a tantric astrologer in Chennai told him he would die at 64, and his wife and friends reacted with something he hadn't expected: anger that he was so accepting of the timeline.
The Prediction That Changed Everything
The astrologer had been accurate before. Years earlier, he had predicted the exact time Mongai's father would die, and the prediction came true. During a re-listening of old interview tapes for a previous show, Mongai discovered a forgotten part of their conversation: the astrologer's prediction for his own life. "From 2034 of 10th month till 2039 after month you will read what you are," the astrologer said. "Then boom. End of this life." July 29, 2039 became a critical date—Mongai would be 64.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (03:03) **Warning & Host Introduction** - Host Mongei sets the tone: this is not medical advice, and listeners will hear about everything from lookmaxing to colonialism to the Golden Girls.
- 2 (07:11) **The Great-Grandmother & The Longevity Landscape** - Mongei introduces his 103-year-old great-grandmother, then contrasts her natural long life with the promises of biohackers, scientists, and startup founders.
- 3 (10:48) **Old Age on TV vs. Reality** - Mongei and comedian Ken Reed examine how TV ads in the 1980s portrayed 50-year-olds as feeble, contrasted with today’s fit 55-year-old actors like Matt Damon.
- 4 (17:04) **The Astrologer’s Prediction & Family Fallout** - Mongei revisits a past episode of his show *Skyline Drive* and discovers a forgotten prediction: a tantric astrologer said he will die on July 29, 2039, at age 64.
- 5 (27:30) **Dr. Nir Barzilai & The Science of Slow Aging** - Mongei visits Dr. Nir Barzilai, director of the aging center at Albert Einstein School of Medicine, who explains that biological age and chronological age are different.
- 6 (34:18) **Dr. Ron Primus & The Longevity Checkup** - Mongei visits a longevity doctor on the Upper East Side who was an inspiration for the TV show *Royal Pains*, and who follows the “longevity escape velocity” philosophy popularized by Ray Kurzweil.
- 7 (44:23) **The Prescription & A Glimpse of Hope** - Dr. Primus prescribes intermittent fasting, better sleep, and cold plunges, but Mongei struggles with how to fit these changes into his life.
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Show Notes
When an astrologer tells Mangesh that he’ll (probably) die early, he takes it in stride. But his family and friends (not to mention all the Don’t Die longevity influencers on his FYP) feel differently… and besides, if science can keep his brain sharp and his tennis game strong for longer, why not take advantage? So he visits Dr. Nir Barzelai, the world’s leading aging researcher, and Dr. Ron Primas, an elite longevity doctor, to figure out what he should do. Plus: A chat with Ken Reid from TV Guidance Counselor about age in pop culture, from the Golden Girls to “I’ve fallen and I can’t get up.”
Disclosure: The experts we spoke with want to be clear that although they have some minor quibbles with Bryan Johnson, they’re grateful for the fact that he’s started the conversation on longevity. Any insinuation that he’s got weird vibes is ours.
- Listen to Ken Reid’s podcast, TV Guidance Counselor
- Learn more about Nir Barzelai’s Longevity Genes Project and his book, Age Later
- Learn more about Ron Primas’s longevity and concierge medicine practice
- Read Cynthia Kenyon’s groundbreaking 1993 study of worm longevity
- Check out the Ray Kurzweil Library
Special thanks to Azadi Records and Bliss Samsa for their beautiful tracks, and Botany for the score.
Episode collage art by Vahini Shori.
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