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5 min read🎙️ The Voices & The Context
- The Format: Solo-hosted narrative podcast episode with expert interviews, blending science breakdowns, personal anecdotes, and myth-busting on relationship advice.
- The Key Players:
- Wendy Zuckerman: Charismatic host who kicks off with TikTok trends and weaves in her own quirky date stories for relatability.
- Ben Karney: UCLA psychology professor studying newlywed fights over decades—dry wit meets deep data.
- Dr. Megan Hazel Schwert: U Tennessee researcher uncovering early abuse signs through survivor interviews.
- Dr. Elizabeth McClintock: U Melbourne expert on abuse timelines from 800+ women.
- Matt Brown: Ex-New Zealand barber turned violence prevention advocate, sharing raw personal tales.
- The Vibe: Educational with punchy humor early on, turning intense and cautionary on abuse, ending hopeful but urgent.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **🎙️ Introduction: Featuring Ben Carney (UCLA Psychologist), Dr. Megan Hazel Schwert (Univ. of Tennessee), Dr. Elizabeth McClintock (Univ. of Melbourne), Matt Brown (Violence Prevention Activist)**
- 2 (03:45) **Healthy Fights in Relationships (Ben Carney)**
- 3 (12:30) **Avoiding Conflict and External Factors**
- 4 (15:30) **Red Flags and Coercive Control (Megan Hazel Schwert & Elizabeth McClintock)**
- 5 (26:00) **Patterns of Abuse and Impact**
- 6 (30:13) **Can Abusers Change? (Matt Brown)**
- 7 (40:00) **Safety Advice and Hope**
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Show Notes
Forget the questionable relationship advice from internet influencers. Today, we’re diving into the science of lasting love, fighting, and "red flags” to find out what really matters for a healthy relationship. We’ll find out what it means to fight well with your partner. And we’ll also look at the signs that a relationship might become dangerous or abusive. For all this, we speak with Professor Ben Karney, Dr. Megan Haselschwerdt, Dr. Elizabeth McLindon and Matt Brown.
U.S. National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800.799.7233 or www.thehotline.org
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Find our transcript here: https://bit.ly/ScienceVsIsYourRelationshipOK
In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Influencers love giving advice
(02:36) How to have a ‘healthy fight’
(09:44) If you fight badly, will you get divorced?
(13:55) What are ‘red flags’?
(21:01) Red flags you should watch for
(28:23) Approaches to try to change abusive partners
(34:00) Why do people try to control their partners?
(37:57) Can an abusive partner change?
This episode was produced by Wendy Zukerman, with help from Michelle Dang, Meryl Horn, Rose Rimler, and Ekedi Fausther-Keeys. We’re edited by Blythe Terrell. Fact checking by Diane Kelly. Mix and sound design by Bobby Lord. Music written by Emma Munger, So Wylie, Peter Leonard, Bumi Hidaka and Bobby Lord. Thanks to our consultants Maya Serelis and Jess Hill. A special thanks to the researchers and folks working in the space of domestic violence that we spoke to including, Dr Áine Travers, Claire Marshall, Professor Sharon Dawe, Professor Kelsey Hegarty, Dr Franscesca Righetti, Dr Andrea Meltzer, Professor Amy Rauer, and Dr Amie Zarling. A big thanks to Joseph Lavelle Wilson and the Zukerman family.
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