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5 min read🎙️ The Voices & The Context
- The Format: A shared episode from the podcast Proxy, framed as "emotional investigative journalism." Host Yoe Shaw interviews guest Brian Reed about his personal struggle, then connects him with a proxy expert (psychologist Claudia Dressel) for a live conversation. It's structured like a heartfelt intervention with storytelling, raw confessions, and therapeutic guidance.
- The Key Players:
- Guest: Brian Reed, acclaimed podcast producer (S-Town, The Trojan Horse Affair, Question Everything). Famous for investigative audio hits; here, he's vulnerable about caregiving.
- Proxy: Claudia Dressel, associate professor at Eastern Michigan University, dementia caregiver specialist using Acceptance and Commitment Therapy (ACT).
- Host: Yoe Shaw, ex-Invisibilia, master of empathetic deep dives.
- The Vibe: Intensely emotional and raw—mix of exhaustion, grief, humor in frustration, and hopeful education. Feels like eavesdropping on therapy: frustratingly real, validating, and oddly uplifting.
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **🎙️ Introduction: Brian Reed**
- 2 (03:53) **Daily Fact-Checking Examples**
- 3 (06:44) **Exhausting Routines and a Day's Log**
- 4 (10:22) **Grief Over Lost Relationship**
- 5 (12:30) **Brian's Coping Efforts and Search for Proxy**
- 6 (15:55) **Proxy Introduction: Claudia Dressel**
- 7 (20:10) **Brian Vents Frustrations with Resources**
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Show Notes
We’ve all been there. Feeling stuck with a problem because no one in our life can relate. Or because the one person we need to talk to … won’t. Or can’t. Enter Yowei Shaw and the show Proxy. Proxy is built on a simple idea: no one is ever as alone with their problem as they think. So Yowei brings in a proxy, a perfect stranger, to help her guests work through their dilemma. Today we’re sharing the case of Brian, a journalist whose mother-in-law has Alzheimer's. Even though Brian knows she can’t help misremembering things, he can’t stop losing his patience with her, and with himself.
This episode was mixed for Science Vs by Bobby Lord.
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Find Proxy here.
Resources from Claudia on dementia caregiving, caregiving in general, and acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT):
On understanding dementia
Dementia Reimagined: Building a life of joy and dignity from beginning to end by Tia Powell (and this accompanying Fresh Air episode)
On preventing/addressing emotional or behavioral changes associated with dementia
When a Family Member Has Dementia: Steps to Becoming a Resilient Caregiver by Susan M. McCurry
On acceptance and commitment therapy (not specifically related to caregiving)
Get Out of Your Mind and Into Your Life The New Acceptance and Commitment Therapy by Steven C. Hayes
The Happiness Trap: How to Stop Struggling and Start Living by Russ Harris
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