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Jennifer Doudna on what it takes to be a good scientist

October 21, 2026

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Jennifer Doudna, who shared the 2020 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for co-developing CRISPR gene editing, has spent decades thinking about what makes scientific discovery possible. In a conversation with Ira Flatow on Science Friday, she laid out a framework for doing good science that is less about raw intelligence and more about a specific combination of stubbornness, risk tolerance, joy, and the ability to navigate failure. Her argument is grounded in the messy, unpredictable path that led to CRISPR itself.

The path to CRISPR was indirect and full of failure

Doudna did not set out to invent a gene-editing tool. Her career began with a fundamental question about the origin of life, studying how RNA molecules might have carried genetic information and copied themselves. This thread of interest in RNA structure followed her through graduate school with Jack Szostak, postdoctoral work with Tom Cech, and into her own lab at Yale and later UC Berkeley. It was only through this RNA-focused lens that she eventually encountered CRISPR, after a colleague, Jill Banfield, discovered that bacteria appeared to have an RNA-guided adaptive immune system.

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What you'll learn

  • 1 (01:16) **Ira's Big Question** - Ira Flatow introduces the episode's central question: "What does it take to be a good scientist?"
  • 2 (02:42) **Why Doudna Gets Asked This Question** - Doudna explains the public's curiosity about the people and process behind high-profile science like CRISPR.
  • 3 (03:39) **The Origin Story: A High School Aptitude Test** - Doudna traces her decision to become a scientist back to a 10th-grade aptitude test.
  • 4 (05:38) **The Crucial Role of Mentors** - Doudna discusses how, coming from a non-scientific family, mentors were essential to her path.
  • 5 (06:35) **The Indirect Path to CRISPR** - Doudna walks through the winding research journey that led her to the gene-editing breakthrough.
  • 6 (09:11) **The Personality Traits of a Good Scientist** - Doudna identifies stubbornness and a feeling of being an outsider as key to her approach.
  • 7 (10:48) **Embracing Risk and Failure** - Doudna elaborates on her philosophy of "give it your all," which requires being willing to try things others might call crazy.

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Show Notes

In 2020, Jennifer Doudna shared the Nobel Prize in chemistry for the development of the gene-editing technique CRISPR. Along with related techniques, it has become an essential tool in genetics, allowing specific sections of genetic code to be cut and replaced in a genome. It’s an advance that has changed the game in biological research. 

Doudna talks with Ira Flatow about the path that led to the development of CRISPR, her own route into research, and her thoughts on the attributes needed for success in science. 

Guest:

Dr. Jennifer Doudna is a professor of biochemistry, biophysics and structural biology at the University of California, Berkeley. She is a 2020 Nobel Laureate in chemistry, and the 2026 winner of the Priestley Medal.

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