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5 min readBringing hard electronics into soft and squishy bodies
John A. Rogers, a professor at Northwestern University and director of the Querrey Simpson Institute of Bioelectronics, has spent his career figuring out how to make rigid silicon electronics work inside the soft, curved, moving tissues of the human body. His inventions include flexible brain probes, a pacemaker smaller than a sesame seed, and wireless sensors that stick to skin like temporary tattoos. But the path from hard electronics to biocompatible devices required rethinking not just materials, but the fundamental language of how electronics and biology communicate.
The origin story: from flexible displays to the brain
Rogers started his independent career at Bell Labs working on flexible electronics for applications like paper-like displays and ultra-low-cost electronic tags. When he moved to the University of Illinois, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) funded work on flexible electronic systems for field-deployable communication networks. The shift toward biocompatible electronics happened almost by accident. After giving a talk in electrical engineering at the University of Pennsylvania, several neurosurgeons who saw the title approached him and asked whether he had considered putting those flexible devices on a brain — "a very squishy market," as Rogers put it. That conversation launche
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **Introduction: The Squishy vs. Hard Problem** - Host Flora Lichtman introduces the challenge of merging rigid electronics with soft, living tissue.
- 2 (02:58) **The Core Engineering and Scientific Challenges** - Rogers defines the two main obstacles to making soft electronics.
- 3 (05:26) **The T-Shaped Expertise Model** - Rogers explains his collaborative approach and how he knows when he doesn't know enough.
- 4 (06:59) **How Projects Are Born: Blue Sky vs. Clinical Need** - Rogers outlines his research group's two main pathways for starting a project.
- 5 (08:15) **The Obsession and the Difficulty** - Rogers admits to being obsessed with his work and gives a case study of the unexpectedly difficult temporary pacemaker project.
- 6 (10:44) **Spycraft to Pediatrics: The Disappearing Pacemaker** - Rogers reveals the military origins of the dissolving electronics and how the clinical challenge escalated.
- 7 (13:18) **How to Pick a Problem (and When to Pass)** - Rogers explains his three-bucket framework for evaluating new project requests.
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Show Notes
A lot of things in life are squishy, including your skin, your organs, and all the goo inside you. But technology tends to be rigid and hard. Figuring out how to get those two worlds to work together can be challenging. How do you connect an electronic sensor to a soft, beating heart?
As an inventor of biocompatible electronic devices, John A. Rogers has designed things like flexible probes, a pacemaker smaller than a grain of rice, and wireless sensors that stick to skin like a temporary tattoo. He joins Host Flora Lichtman to talk about the challenges of meshing the natural and artificial worlds, and his approach to science and technology development.
Guest:
Dr. John A. Rogers is a professor and director of the Querrey-Simpson Institute of Bioelectronics at Northwestern University.
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