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Who is Judge Tony Graf? - Ep 171

September 7, 2026

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In the months after Charlie Kirk was killed, Ryan Fournier’s X account kept posting. Dozens of times a day, every day, the feed amplified mainstream MAGA and neocon talking points, touted the Iran War, and praised President Trump. The only problem: Fournier, the founder of Students for Trump, had been sitting in a D.C. jail cell without bond for two months, charged with assaulting his girlfriend. The details of the attack were so egregious that the host of this episode says he fears even describing them could get the channel taken down. Fournier is, of course, innocent until proven guilty. But the host’s point is not about Fournier’s guilt or innocence. It is that the person running Fournier’s account is almost certainly not Fournier. Which raises the question: who is, and what does that mean for free speech when the speaker and the speech have been separated?

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  • 1 (00:00) **Introduction and Disclaimer** - Host sets up the episode's goal: to explore the background of Judge Tony Graf, who is presiding over the Charlie Kirk murder case, and to preview the show's structure.
  • 2 (06:25) **Opening Statement: The Ryan Fournier Case** - Host presents the story of Ryan Fournier, a MAGA influencer whose social media account continued posting prolifically while he was jailed for assault, raising questions about who is actually speaking online.
  • 3 (12:03) **The TPUSA-Students for Trump Split** - The relationship between Fournier and TPUSA soured in 2023 over Trump branding and fundraising, leading to a formal separation, though the account's continued activity after Fournier's arrest suggests the arrangement may not have fully ended.
  • 4 (17:59) **Introducing Judge Tony Graf** - Host transitions to the main topic, examining Judge Graf's unusual appointment to the Utah County bench and his rapid assignment to three major cases, including the Charlie Kirk murder trial.
  • 5 (20:03) **Judge Graf's Career Timeline** - Host traces Graf's career from the U.S. Attorney's office in D.C. to multiple prosecutorial roles in Nevada, American Samoa, and Utah, highlighting his consistent focus on sex crimes and special victims.
  • 6 (24:40) **The Unusual Appointment** - Host explains why Graf's appointment to the Utah County bench is unusual, as he had little connection to the county and had to move there from a different judicial district.
  • 7 (30:32) **Video Analysis: Judge Graf's Interview** - Host plays and analyzes a clip of Judge Graf discussing his career, revealing his lack of geographical knowledge and his deep passion for special victims prosecution.

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Show Notes

We take a look at Judge Tony Graf. Where did he come from? What did he do before his appointment?

We also expand on Judge Graf's background to ask why so many of the players in this case and around TPUSA share similar backgrounds and interests.*

*Connections discussed in this episode are discussed for educational purposes and merely highlight connections to certain industries and do not imply guilt or liability to any crime or wrongdoing.

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