Tyler's Defense Conceded Nothing, So Why Do Lying Liars Keep Lying? - Ep 170
September 3, 2026
AI Summary
5 min readThe host of the Real Baron Podcast opens with a specific, damning observation: a new video from Candace Owens shows a "powwow" — a secretive huddle between three Turning Point USA (TPUSA) security staff members — that took place just seconds after Charlie Kirk was shot. This meeting, which the host argues has never been explained, is the latest piece of evidence in a case that he believes is far more complex than the official narrative suggests. The episode is a deep dive into the inconsistencies, suspicious behaviors, and potential cover-up surrounding the assassination of Charlie Kirk, with a central focus on the reliability of the text messages allegedly sent by the accused, Tyler Robinson.
The "Powwow" and Other Suspicious Behaviors
The host meticulously breaks down the new video footage, frame by frame. He identifies the key players: Danny Phillip, Mikey McCoy, and Justin Davis, all TPUSA security. In the immediate aftermath of the shooting, while the crowd is panicking and fleeing, these three men are seen ducking behind the same SUV that will be used to transport Kirk. They huddle together for a brief moment, and when they break, Justin Davis gives Danny Phillip a reassuring pat on the back. "That's what I do after you give them an instruction," the host says, comparing it to coaching Little League. "Hey, we're gonna bunt this hit, all right? Pat."
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What you'll learn
- 1 (00:00) **Episode Opening & Agenda** - Host outlines a packed show: new Candace Owens video, the "Mountain Man" clip, housekeeping from the hearing, an analysis of the Tyler Robinson text messages, and the Hades spy plane.
- 2 (03:14) **New Video: The "Powwow" Behind the SUV** - Host plays Candace Owens' new video, focusing on a secret meeting between TPUSA staff behind the getaway SUV immediately after the shooting.
- 3 (08:50) **The Failed Jump-In & The Mystery Bag** - Host points out a man (later identified as Alex Faria) who tries to jump into the SUV's trunk but falls out, and a bag is then thrown from the vehicle.
- 4 (12:30) **The Second Camera: Butch Hibbs & The "Big Boy"** - Host switches to a second camera angle facing the tent, focusing on two men who immediately began filming instead of fleeing.
- 5 (18:00) **The Mystery "Traffic Director"** - Host highlights a woman in a spaghetti-strap top who appears to be directing people away from the scene with no apparent fear.
- 6 (21:50) **Jason Buhannan: Deputy Sheriff & Witness** - Host reveals that Jason Buhannan, the stoic videographer, is a deputy sheriff for Utah County, a fact omitted from news reports.
- 7 (24:45) **Pre-Shot Signals & Security Theater** - Host analyzes the moments just before the bang, focusing on the behavior of security personnel.
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Show Notes
We also run through the timeline of the texts messages the defense did not concede were Tyler Robinson. We'll look at the timeline they present and ask why the lying liars who are desperate to see Tyler Robinson convicted keep lying about whether the defense conceded they were sent by Tyler.
Finally, we circle back to the Axel HADES plane that flew over Washington County while Tyler supposedly was turning himself in and ask why it headed that way before authorities were alerted about Tyler Robinson.
0:00 Intro
3:22 Candace Owens Drops New Footage of Charlie Kirk Being Taken From UVU
15:04 New Footage Dropped Yesterday Shows Two People Filming Aftermath and a Woman Directing Traffic
22:28 Who is the Big Guy Filming Next to Butch Hibbs?
37:03 Housekeeping Clean Up Notes from Yesterday's Preliminary Hearing Finale
44:25 Is Fed Slop Misinformation Being Repeated So Broadly to Affect AI Output? 52:20 The Defense Absolutely Contested the Validity of the Text Messages (and Even Tyler's Presence in Orem)
1:12:10 HADES Spy Plane Leaves for St. George Utah BEFORE Tyler Allegedly Texted His Intent to Turn Himself In
1:28:15 Tyler Robinson Surviving and Turning Himself In Would Have Been Fatal to Successfully Framing Him