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The Telegram Messages May Be Real, but What Do They Really Say? - Ep 165

August 24, 2026

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Charlie Kirk's last full day alive, September 9, 2025, included a 6:48 PM Telegram message that the host of the Real Baron Podcast is willing to treat as genuine: "I'm somewhat worried about the left trying to kill me." The message was released not by Turning Point USA or anyone on its staff, but by a small podcaster called Smoke Boy, who first read it aloud during a debate with Candace Owens without having verified it first. The host spends the episode reconstructing the context around that message — who Charlie likely sent it to, why it might have been released now, and what it tells us about the security failures that left him dead the next day at Utah Valley University.

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  • 1 (00:00) **Opening: The FedSlop Flip-Flop and Evaluating the Charlie Kirk Text** - The host introduces the show's framework: analyzing "FedSlop flip-flops" (people who changed their story on the Charlie Kirk case) and then pivoting to a deep dive into the recently released text messages from Charlie Kirk's final day.
  • 2 (05:56) **The "Drip, Drip, Drip" Strategy and Smoke Boy's Credibility** - The host criticizes the way the text messages were released, not by TPUSA directly, but through a proxy named "Smoke Boy," and questions the credibility of the source.
  • 3 (14:33) **The Debate and the "Mic Drop" Moment** - The host replays and analyzes the specific moment Smoke Boy read the text message during the debate, focusing on Smoke Boy's unusual physical reaction and the context of the exchange.
  • 4 (21:23) **Analyzing the Screenshot: Telegram, Redactions, and Context Clues** - The host puts the leaked screenshot on screen, identifying the platform as Telegram, noting key redactions, and beginning to deduce who the recipient might be.
  • 5 (30:47) **Telegram Verification and the "Last Seen" Clue** - The host shares his own investigation into Charlie Kirk's Telegram account, showing that the account was actively accessed for months after his death, which he argues supports the messages' authenticity.
  • 6 (36:29) **The "Positive Evidence" Double Standard** - The host uses Smoke Boy's own words from the debate to create a standard for evidence, then challenges him to apply that same standard to the text messages.
  • 7 (42:30) **How Did Charlie Know? The "Left" and the Lone Wolf Problem** - The host questions the official narrative by asking how Charlie Kirk could have known a lone wolf like Tyler Robinson was planning to kill him, and then explores who Charlie considered to be "the left."

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Show Notes

We take a look at the Telegram messages allegedly sent by Charlie Kirk the night before the event at UVU on 9/10.

We place those messages in the context of Charlie's final full day alive.

We also analyze a "fed slop flop" that already has been forgotten.

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