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Quantum Refuge

November 14, 2025

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In July 2025, a 28-year-old physicist named Qassam Walid sat in a café in Khan Yunis, in southern Gaza, and described his reality to a Radiolab reporter. An F-16 hummed overhead. He had spent three days searching for flour. He was speaking from a tent camp where the nearest bomb had landed 30 or 40 meters behind him. And he was using quantum mechanics—superposition, tunneling, Schrödinger’s cat—to explain what it felt like to live through a genocide. Not as a metaphor. As a lived experience.

Qassam’s story begins long before the war. As a boy in Gaza, he would lie on his roof and watch the stars pulse on and off, wondering if they were sending him a kind of Morse code. His father, an engineer and a frustrated poet, taught free physics lectures to neighbors and relatives, and Qassam would slip into the room to listen. His father died when Qassam was 19, but he had already set the course: Qassam would study physics at the Islamic University of Gaza. There, he met Dr. Sufyan Taya, the university’s president and a renowned physicist. Dr. Taya was elegant, silver-haired, and spoke about quantum mechanics with a kind of poetry. He taught Qassam about superposition—the maddening fact that subatomic particles exist in multiple states at once until they are measured. He taught him about quantum tunneling, where electrons can pass through barriers that seem impossible to cross. “We are

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  • 1 (00:00) **Introduction: A Physicist in Gaza** - Host Lulu Miller introduces Qassam Walid, a 28-year-old physicist living in Gaza who uses quantum physics to describe his reality.
  • 2 (04:30) **Qassam's Reality in July 2025** - Qassam describes his current situation in Khan Yunis, including the struggle to find food and the constant presence of warplanes.
  • 3 (06:52) **The Origin: A Father's Inspiration** - Qassam traces his love of physics back to childhood stargazing and his father, a brilliant engineer who gave free lectures.
  • 4 (11:40) **University and Dr. Sufyan Taya** - Qassam describes the Islamic University of Gaza as a beautiful, free place where he first encountered quantum mechanics.
  • 5 (18:31) **Dreams of a Future in Physics** - Qassam imagines a future as an astrophysicist, hoping for a scholarship to study abroad and visit NASA or SpaceX.
  • 6 (24:34) **October 7th and the Destruction of Gaza** - Qassam describes the Hamas attack and the immediate, unprecedented Israeli counterattack that followed.
  • 7 (28:12) **The Death of Dr. Taya and a Breaking Point** - Qassam learns his beloved professor, Dr. Sufyan Taya, was killed in an Israeli airstrike.

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Show Notes

Qasem Waleed is a 28-year-old physicist who has lived in Gaza his whole life. In 2024, he joined a chorus of Palestinians sharing videos and pictures and writing about the chaos and violence they were living through, as Israel’s military bombardment devastated their lives. But Qasem was trying to describe his reality through the lens of the most notoriously confusing and inscrutable field of science ever, quantum mechanics. We talked to him, from a cafe near the Al-Mawasi section of Gaza, to find out why. And over the course of several conversations, he told us how this reality-breaking corner of science has helped him survive. And how such unspeakable violence actually let him understand, in a visceral way, quantum mechanics’ most counter-intuitive ideas. 

Special thanks to Katya Rogers, Karim Kattan, Allan Adams, Sarah Qari, Soren Wheeler, and Pat Walters

EPISODE CREDITS: 
Reported by - Lulu Miller
Produced by - Jessica Yung
with mixing help from - Jeremy Bloom
Fact-checking by - Emily Krieger
and Edited by  - Alex Neason


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